That's a claim. Mind showing your work? Math checks out. I too suspect ALPA can do better than a pay cut for FOs, a further degradation of reserve rules if we pick option 1, and a pinky promise we will fight for you in a merger, until we won't, see your latest Friday night bulletin for details. I d...

I’m pretty sure alpa could have done better than a $0.50 hourly pay cut for 2nd year FOs. But hey what do I know. That's a claim. Mind showing your work? Math checks out. I too suspect ALPA can do better than a pay cut for FOs, a further degradation of reserve rules if we pick option 1, and a pinky...

PRM1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:08 am That is false. All changes must be approved by the foag committee. Read the entire package before making false claims.

Scope and merger protection via FOAG has zero legal protections.

It's a document that can be changed via bulletin on Friday night.

We are happy to share that we will be hosting our second ALPA information session. To join, reach out to one of our many organizing committee members, or, contact us via our website. In solidarity, www.PorterPilotsForChange.ca Your email/meeting minutes is absolute garbage. You guys already talking...

I'm starting to genuinely question whether unions actually benefit more then they cost, 1.85 percent of salary tax deductible, when time after time they don't seem to do great on contract negotiations. I know there's some advantages, but they seem minimal and are they really worth the cost? After w...

Biggest thing I'm looking forward to is no concessions via bulletin with nothing in return. Over the many years I've been here I've seen a slow degradation of work rules, with rapid pay increases to keep the pitchforks at bay. I'm all for more money in my pocket, especially in Canada's current econo...

I feel like Realitychex is the reason why "old man yell at cloud" meme was invented. This is a thread about porter pilots wanting to unionize. Not a platform for you to yell "porter is going to go under" for the 99th time on avcanada on 99 different threads. Maybe we should focus on the topic as han...

Porters leadership has systematically raised our pay rates which is great. At the same time during our biggest need for pilots systematically decreased QOL in hopes that the raises keep the pitchforks and union drive at bay. We are so far behind WJ and ACs QOL and benefits we arnt even in the same u...

One of the biggest problems in Canada is we are less productive than US and our dollar has taken a nose dive. I would LOVE this magic math to work where we get salaries converted from today's USD rates converted to Canadian. Alot of the gripes with this TA are justified, this is not one of them. Bec...

I don't appreciate being called a "greedy fu ck" and being accused of "throwing the juniors under the bus" for only paying them $80K/year. Then don't be one? How can you deny that's true? Perhaps not 'you' personally, but the union sure is. Again, your raise is higher than the new salary the junior...

This TA is far from perfect. But a 41% uplift in 4 years isn't exactly peanuts. Plus all other gravy like benefits bump, per diems, vacation credit etc that equates to 1.9 billion dollars in extra compensation the MEC fought tirelessly for the last 15 months. Once the dust settles, just like post WJ...

Justapassenger is just upset his bonus will be smaller this year as his ONEX legal team couldn't bribe the right politician to try to force workers back to work instead of negotiating. I will shed a single tear for you sir. Congrats WJ AMEs for getting a inflation combating raise. Trolls are so ador...

Don't allow yourselves to bicker and be divided by children and trolls over semantics when so much is at stake. I bet 75% of the people in this thread aren't AC/WJ. This is about raising the level for us all, breaking past the management definitions of comparables. This is messaging to the general ...

This video isn't for WJ pilots. This video is for the traveling public for when a strike date nears and executive suite will try to negotiate in public. "Look at these greedy pilots, we offered them WJ +5 percent and they said no!!" If ACs ALPA gets anywhere near American legacy pay, WJs MEC can eas...

National flag carrier Airline Pilot in low income housing. If this doesn't state the damage ACPA has done to our industry, I don't know what does. There is a special place in hell for all the ACPA scabs that helped create this poverty, and the icing on the cake is when they switched teams and now ma...

Regarding point 1), your argument is not valid because your implicit assumption that management will NOT increase pay to match industry is not true. Case in point, Porter increased pay to match what they felt was the industry standard for that type of aircraft. And what did they do to the working c...

Bad unions exist, ACPA is a good example of it. But ACs new ALPA union is fighting for 1200 amendments to its wording and work rules. That's something the FOAG can't do due to lack of manpower and having zero power to hold executives accountable. The FOAG are an amazing group of volunteers doing the...

It's also not a threat but a reality check. Anyone currently on property when we have roughly 30 of 75 confirmed tails is riding the seniority wave. To give up being in the top 40 percent of all pilots on the roster to someone that thinks we should all give up weekends so they can justify their jump...

Ground schools are full without you. You want to wait longer and have worse seniority? Cool. You want to stay where you are? Cool. Either way, the people that made the risky move of jumping to Porter early on in the Jet expansion also now are benefiting from their move and I very much doubt they wi...

People show up because Porter decided to pay people accordingly. Lots of airlines have jets... Yes you're right. When I said "because we ordered jets" I was referring to the position as a whole, not just the physical jets. Sorry that was obtuse On a side note, although I don't work for Porter but a...

The whole point of this recent update was to try and make the Dash at least somewhat attractive again for captains or potential upgrades - it’s unfortunate as it completely missed the mark again. Nothing was fixed - no bypass pay, no YOS transfer, no fix to flow (in fact, made it worse for FOs). Th...

Sounds like the only fair solution that doesn't leave people constantly complaining about trainer vs none trainer pairing. Given our Jet trainers were mainly hired at the beginning of the expansion they should have great seniority in no time and with the entire bid open to them also more control ove...

An honest question, how many of your pilots would turn down AC if the were offered a spot? I'll speak for myself. There is zero chance I'd go to AC right now. I'm am extremely happy here. That could change. Who knows. But the reality is that there is no way I could afford losing well over $100,000/...

“99% of [airline] startups fail within 14 months and this will be one of them.” - Mark Hill aka Realitychex He sure does know this business! "Industry expert confused why Airline that doesn't had out multi million dollar bonuses to corporate staff and is fiscally prudent hasn't collapsed yet. Predi...

Porter bled the least during covid as it ran on a skeleton crew maintenance wise, the entire executive staff didn't collect a single dollar during the shutdown, and all middle managers took a huge haircut during shutdown while other airlines lost millions a day. I suspect Porters corporate culture o...