Search found 117 matches

by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Aug 07, 2026 7:04 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: ALPA Reps Whoring Themselves on VO
Replies: 80
Views: 10171

Re: ALPA Reps Whoring Themselves on VO

CPU2000 wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2026 5:21 pm 120 hours from the YVR FO Rep last month.

Top VO Whore for the whole airline out of 6000 pilots.
Lol...this guy was a big Yes Vote for the TA.

If the deal was so good...why does he need 120 hrs of VO a month??
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Thu May 14, 2026 1:02 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: ALPA Survey
Replies: 38
Views: 12054

Re: ALPA Survey

Sounds pretty nefarious to me.

At least we got our union leaders World Class benefits & pay :roll:
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Thu May 14, 2026 10:30 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: ALPA Survey
Replies: 38
Views: 12054

Re: ALPA Survey

You know the policy manual isn't "hidden" right? It's right there on the ALPA app for you to look at... And here's a big surprise, it doesn't say anything about MEC members getting $2K extra pay per month. There is a per diem maximum which is $2K for the MEC Chair that is on the road much of the ti...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed May 13, 2026 1:56 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: ALPA Survey
Replies: 38
Views: 12054

Re: ALPA Survey

They did secure themselves 90 hrs of pay per month. Anyone know if they are "going for more" for themselves next round? Maybe bump up their $2k per month stipend aka bonus. Shame we lost ours. yawn. like 5 members of the union who get paid this. you know, the ones who work their asses off for us. w...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:58 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng
Replies: 77
Views: 19427

Re: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng

"Too much taxes"...ie blaming AIFs Despite Air Canada having the lowest % of labour costs to operating expenses of any major North American airline. What do you attribute the cross border pay differential to? Bede, Have you gone through this forum and seen what pay difference is? https://www.airlin...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:40 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng
Replies: 77
Views: 19427

Re: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng

During the covid shutdown AC and others had to take out loans for billions, there was "free" money handed out but not nearly as much as in the US. I think that is part of the huge gap between countries So "Not enough free govt $$$" as an excuse. Problem with that is which corporation in Canada took...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:38 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng
Replies: 77
Views: 19427

Re: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng

Delta, UAL etc didn't take 16 years to get where they are. They have had massive gains from 2018-2019 onwards, and in two bargaining cycles saw essentially a 100% increase in pay. This is cycle number 2 for us, so when we dont get anywhere close this time around what will the excuses be this time? ...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Mar 04, 2026 2:04 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng
Replies: 77
Views: 19427

Re: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng

Delta, UAL etc didn't take 16 years to get where they are. They have had massive gains from 2018-2019 onwards, and in two bargaining cycles saw essentially a 100% increase in pay. This is cycle number 2 for us, so when we dont get anywhere close this time around what will the excuses be this time? ...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Mon Mar 02, 2026 9:30 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng
Replies: 77
Views: 19427

Re: pAtTeRn bArGaInIng

They can start with explaining what happened to the last 2 years of profit sharing. That's been explained a million times in emails, roadshows, Q&A's, council meetings, podcasts etc. We exchanged variable pay for guaranteed income. How dumb are you guys? We took a costly, permanent concession to ba...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Feb 27, 2026 6:01 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?
Replies: 130
Views: 50841

Re: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?

We've beaten this to death before... I'll take guaranteed salary over profit share every day. Any time I can convert a capped variable payment - a payment that is dependent on what is the least frequently profitable industry in the world profiting, from a company with a background of baggage, misma...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Feb 27, 2026 1:14 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?
Replies: 130
Views: 50841

Re: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?

Sure, laughing stocks for getting 42% raises. Name another Canadian carrier that walked away with such a percentage. See what the FA got handed in arbitration. They really showed the company. Yet I still make less as a AC CA than the 737 FO I met from Delta a few weeks ago. Flight Attendants are re...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:57 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?
Replies: 130
Views: 50841

Re: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?

I emailed the union and the response was that this year’s results would not have lead to a max payout. In order to achieve that the EBITDA margin would have needed to reach 16.5%. At a 14% margin, we would have received a payout percentage of 1.24% which, based on the assumed payroll numbers and fo...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Thu Feb 26, 2026 9:45 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?
Replies: 130
Views: 50841

Re: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?

There are a few structural realities being overlooked here. WestJet pilots have historically enjoyed better QOL for a very simple reason. For most of its existence they could not match Air Canada pay rates. They didn't even have a pension! QOL was essential for recruitment and retention. Socialized...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Mon Feb 23, 2026 5:36 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Flight Attendant strike vote opens on July 28th
Replies: 425
Views: 158537

Re: Flight Attendant strike vote opens on July 28th

For the crowd shedding tears for the FA's, you likely were not around for all the years of Service Directors bragging about earning more than the First Officer. Or the painful years of "Me Too" clauses where the corp repeatedly told the Pilots; "whatever we give you, we have to give to all the othe...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Feb 18, 2026 8:57 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Flight Attendant strike vote opens on July 28th
Replies: 425
Views: 158537

Re: Flight Attendant strike vote opens on July 28th

At least they got a tiny bit more...they certainly didn't walk away with anything LESS with arbitration like the fraidey cats will tell you
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:20 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?
Replies: 130
Views: 50841

Re: What will Air Canada pilots do with their $0 bonus?

So looks like we would have gotten profit sharing AGAIN this year if we didn't give it away? https://www.tipranks.com/news/company-announcements/air-canada-posts-record-2025-revenues-and-maps-cautious-growth-for-2026 Yup... 2 Years of max payout for the pilot group given away...to get WJ plus 2% pa...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Jan 21, 2026 7:25 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Leave TS for AC?
Replies: 33
Views: 10353

Re: Leave TS for AC?

I still can't get over junior Air Transat pilots concerned over the shit Quality of Life at AC. How did the MEC at Air Canada present such a shit contract that it has come to this?! Presented? Have you been under a rock? The contract was ratified over a year ago. Lol...so what was the first step af...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Wed Jan 21, 2026 5:14 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Leave TS for AC?
Replies: 33
Views: 10353

Re: Leave TS for AC?

I still can't get over junior Air Transat pilots concerned over the shit Quality of Life at AC.

How did the MEC at Air Canada present such a shit contract that it has come to this?!
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Jan 16, 2026 9:31 pm
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: Anyone have any clue what the proposed SALARY SCALE LOOKS LIKE WITH THE NEW TA?
Replies: 44
Views: 16574

Re: Anyone have any clue what the proposed SALARY SCALE LOOKS LIKE WITH THE NEW TA?

AC pilots’ contract expires next year. Hopefully we see new Reps for the next round, not the same weak yes voters. I would not be surprised if, with the same Reps, they agree to gains that do not even beat leisure or discount carriers, especially out of YUL. They would be scared to fight a wet pool...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Fri Jan 16, 2026 9:53 am
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: Anyone have any clue what the proposed SALARY SCALE LOOKS LIKE WITH THE NEW TA?
Replies: 44
Views: 16574

Re: Anyone have any clue what the proposed SALARY SCALE LOOKS LIKE WITH THE NEW TA?

No need to apologize, most of us here have friends or family at AC, so we know what it is, and who the ones throwing tempertantrums are. Unfortnately they don't realize the toxicity they spew doesn't help them in any regard. End of the day, we are all family in the aviation world, and I know for a ...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:16 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Poll: What is the most embarrassing aspect of the Air Canada pilot contract?
Replies: 72
Views: 23585

Re: Poll: What is the most embarrassing aspect of the Air Canada pilot contract?

Question is how many guys at AC would trade pay for QOL? Can't underestimate the grip of money... it takes hold of everyone, and then it's never enough. You could predict perpetually trading away every last lifestyle aspect for a few extra bucks. Happens in every group in every industry. It's fasci...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:58 pm
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: The TA
Replies: 92
Views: 37566

Re: The TA

Insult insult blah blah blah insult insult toss more shit. What is your defect dude? Did nobody love you as a child? The fact is there is a monthly MBG that is variable based on DBM for both block holders and reserve pilots. I detailed it earlier which you ignored. I provided the relevant article r...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:05 am
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: The TA
Replies: 92
Views: 37566

Re: The TA

Air Canada pilots don't have a monthly guarantee.... Oh I guess the flat payers get it. We give the worst new hire pay in the industry a 75 hrs guarantee. Sounds so very Air Canada like... Just another one of those "we will get'em next time"...."just need xyz airline to get because we need to pAtTeR...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Mon Dec 15, 2025 3:08 pm
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: The TA
Replies: 92
Views: 37566

Re: The TA

Monthly MBG at Air Canada is DBM dependent and between 60 and 72 hours for block holders, between 68 and 82 hours for reserve pilots. First two pay steps FO/RP are guaranteed higher of above or 75 hours. Depending on fleet, pilots are also guaranteed overseas and nav pay. 71 hours on WBs, 10 hours ...
by 3rdWorldClassPilot
Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:47 pm
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: The TA
Replies: 92
Views: 37566

Re: The TA

In practice that's not how it works. Like 3rdworldclasspilot said it is not a monthly guarantee. You are correct that's it's a 900hr annual guarantee. However, it gets paid out as a single lump sum "top up" basically whenever the company feels like it. This past year it was several months delayed f...

Go to advanced search