Not that they didn’t have the seniority, but they took a voluntary lay off, and now facing a reality-check after their summer off, decide they want to now work for encore. IMO they had their chance.

Yes, we live in a society. Great observations.

And the fungus continues to spread..

With WJ being private now, there aren't even any numbers to discuss. Only what the talking heads in management choose to relay...

Really? I’m still surprised Circa $1500 after tax is enough to do anything with...

I get the frustration, at our house we have been affected by job loss as well. But once you say the word ‘snowflake’ I stop listening. There may be job loss now, but you would also have no job down the road if the virus had been allowed to just run rampant, hoping for it to just ‘disappear’. Equatin...

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But..But... Ed said that this was not planned before the pandemic! He said it several times so it must be true.

Management did their best to paint the pilots as the devil during negotiations and pit the rest of the employees against them. I think what we have here is an example of the brainwashing having its intended effect.

It's a shame, I feel that there was a competitive advantage in having the customer 'touch points' IE the CSAs, in-house. Now you will have people who only give a damn just enough to not get fired, wearing WJ uniforms. Obviously WJ figures the lack of service for 50c on the dollar (or whatever) is wo...

If/when WJ comes out the other side of this, it will be a sad shell of it’s former self

I find it interesting that there is no "Will Air Canada Survive" thread or it's equivalent on the Air Canada Forum. It seems that they are in the same industry and face the same issues and challenges. Is it that all Canadians just expect and know that the government will bail out AC no matter what ...

They’ve also managed to reduce costs by at least 60% so far. They’re not just sitting around waiting for the cash to run out.

How did this get associated with a Navajo? You have to take into account the pyramid of "AvCanada bitchiness". There was no option to complain about instructing, so the poster reverted to the second level of the pyramid. Some good old 703 bashing! -------- At the top, you have FTUs and flight instr...

The senior guys will be fine. We are the only “international” airline that lets you keep flying (in your left seat) past 65. Their lost wages over the period of the moa can be recouped in a few months. I’ll support last pay to the last day in exchange for 65 retirement age. Deal? This statement isn...

Well those who were upset about Encore making concessions, must be right happy now that the mainline MEC wasn't able to save a single job. Those top ~500 guys can now continue making 150-200K +ESP while the rest get laid off. Actually, the MEC was capable of saving 1000 pilot jobs. However, the MEC...

Well those who were upset about Encore making concessions, must be right happy now that the mainline MEC wasn't able to save a single job. Those top ~500 guys can now continue making 150-200K +ESP while the rest get laid off.

So to be clear, on a week when 1600 or so of our fellow pilots and literally almost 10,000 of our colleagues are getting lay-off and furlough notices because of an international pandemic that is decimating the aviation industry, you are digging up old posts of mine with an anonymous internet accoun...

Those initial figures are only as long as the CEWS program lives. After that, 50mmg till end of year. It's only an FO spot that will be marginal compared to EI.

Come on guys. I have a real hard time believing that the goal of the Encore MEC was to ‘pee in the pool’ and make it as unappealing as possible for mainline guys to want the job. Are they a bunch of evil villains sitting around twisting their moustaches in delight at the result of this agreement? Th...