Yes 'Flat pay' is not so much the issue, its just the rate that's the problem. It's just an MMG which is much simpler and spread evenly throughout the year, like almost every other airline I believe...
Do the US airlines use an MMG type system? Or do they use convoluted formulae as well...
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- Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:18 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: US Regional FO - Year 1 - $206,000 Canadian
- Replies: 45
- Views: 18756
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:04 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Is this what a Union feels like?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6489
Re: Is this what a Union feels like?
Troll alert. There is an apetogether and an apestogether. I think it's the same guy, he's got so many user names he can't even keep track of them any more. Lol there is also an accountant and an acountant that is trolling. There needs to be a sticky at the top of all these forums now. Look out for ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:11 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Is this what a Union feels like?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6489
Re: Is this what a Union feels like?
Troll alert. There is an apetogether and an apestogether.
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:23 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Former ACPA Reps at Informational Pickets
- Replies: 24
- Views: 12913
Re: Former ACPA Reps at Informational Pickets
Is this the return of Weedpro 2000 aka Rotten Apple #1 aka NCP.... ? WJ wasn't enough drama anymore... They must be siblings at the very least.
- Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:53 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: “I compete in Canada, so I need to be competitive in Canada,” - Mike Rosseau
- Replies: 97
- Views: 15977
Re: “I compete in Canada, so I need to be competitive in Canada,” - Mike Rosseau
As mentioned before, don’t forget the quality of life and contract fixes that are so important. AC is so far behind in this regard I believe it’s at least as important or even more so than pay (except for flat pay).
- Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:07 am
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: WestJet new direction with ULCC integration
- Replies: 15
- Views: 5045
Re: WestJet new direction with ULCC integration
He left out the part where the real reason for swoop was to attempt to restart salaries and implement a B-scale. Glad to see it failed.
- Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:34 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: How do new AC pilots survive?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2648
Re: How do new AC pilots survive?
Clearly we should all become professional trolls such as yourself.
- Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:27 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: New CA Expectation
- Replies: 121
- Views: 22422
Re: New CA Expectation
As long as it takes and then some. I'm ready. Shut 'er down. Get your shit together men! We won't strike, but when they lock us out I'm not going back until we achieve all of our goals. No caving. No compromise. No back to work legislation. I'm not going back until we achieve all of our goals. This...
- Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:41 pm
- Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
- Topic: Air Canada slashing routes out of Calgary in face of ongoing pilot shortage
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8654
Re: Air Canada slashing routes out of Calgary in face of ongoing pilot shortage
AC is setting up the messaging for bringing in a massive amount of foreign pilots. Just wait for the mBA terms such as “operational sustainability” to hit the government and then the pressure will mount that the Canadian public will absolutely support. Which experienced foreign pilots would want to...
- Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:43 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: New CA Expectation
- Replies: 121
- Views: 22422
Re: New CA Expectation
More ACPA thinking. You can only have one bread crumb back at a time. (I kid...) But seriously, the whole notion of horse trading and 'bargaining capital' needs to go away.
- Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:13 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: The Air Canada OTS thread
- Replies: 2309
- Views: 807807
Re: The Air Canada OTS thread
Many people will put in their bid, to automatically be placed at say, 75% of the list. (Or whatever) So they are just delaying until they can hold a better sched. In the meantime, those willing to be at the bottom are free to take it. However, higher seniority numbers will be parachuting in above yo...
- Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:54 pm
- Forum: Porter Airlines
- Topic: Recession
- Replies: 54
- Views: 8119
Re: Recession
That part I can actually agree with. That, plus the time value of money, I would rather have the pay scales squished and not be so top heavy.accountant wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:24 pm
Entry level pilots are underpaid. 20 year pilots are not.
- Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:25 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: New CA Expectation
- Replies: 121
- Views: 22422
Re: New CA Expectation
The solution is simple. Stop accepting the current AC offer. As long as AC fills up every single GS with hundreds of pilots on flat pay then how much leverage do you really have ? But because muh seniority number and muh pension and muh career progression, we have pilots crawling naked over broken ...
- Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:40 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: New CA Expectation
- Replies: 121
- Views: 22422
Re: New CA Expectation
But 1500hr pilots are being hired at AC. You're absolutely right, but has anything changed really? I still see a blatant willingness to accept less by this pilot group - i.e. full ground schools every month. I'm also seeing who's filling those ground schools: 25 year olds still living in mommy's ba...
- Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:12 am
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Is this a legitimate scenario?????
- Replies: 31
- Views: 6942
Re: Is this a legitimate scenario?????
Definitely the minority. While I don't condone those remarks, gotta remember that the wounds from Swoop are still very fresh. Lots of WJ pilots had their upgrades delayed while watching junior pilots take the much lower paying Swoop Captain position.. Nonetheless, please don't let a few remarks fro...
- Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:58 am
- Forum: General Comments
- Topic: The adds are killing this forum
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2413
Re: The adds are killing this forum
I’ve never seen a forum as bad as this. Unusable without adblock.
Adblock pro if you’re on safari on mobile, ublock origin if you’re on firefox. Makes the site like it was 15 years ago.
Adblock pro if you’re on safari on mobile, ublock origin if you’re on firefox. Makes the site like it was 15 years ago.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:16 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Schedule satisfaction
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4743
Re: Schedule satisfaction
Fair enough, ideally the pairing construction will be fixed so that those who stay senior on the FO side, get more benefit rather than just the very top of the list. I think a calendar day min credit would be a good place to start!
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:58 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Schedule satisfaction
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4743
Re: Schedule satisfaction
Socialized bidding affords junior pilots a better schedule early in their career. But …. Then they don’t get that jammy flying when they are senior. I see both sides, but I find it interesting this is still seen as more preferable. When the kids are young, the days matter. When you're an old fart, ...
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:00 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Schedule satisfaction
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4743
Re: Schedule satisfaction
So its been established that seniority scheduling pretty much sucks for everyone but the top 10%. Now that the demographics of AC are changing, could there ever be enough appetite to make the change to social bidding? We know everyone loved LOU74 (and not just for the pay).
- Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:28 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Toronto base wins the PRIZE!
- Replies: 56
- Views: 9258
Re: Toronto base wins the PRIZE!
Like mentioned before, likely lots of new people with no union experience, who might not even understand why the MEC can't just come right out and speak directly. They need to appreciate the subtlety and reading between the lines required...