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by True North
Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: New Arbitrated Contract
Replies: 123
Views: 18187

Re: New Arbitrated Contract

What I find rather amusing is that there seem to be a good number of WJ pilots surprised by this outcome.

This is all on script.
by True North
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet might as well rebrand itself as Canadian
Replies: 26
Views: 6273

Re: WestJet might as well rebrand itself as Canadian

Obviously you haven't flown on them for a long time. That stopped years ago. You'll have to find another excuse. The era of Westjet corny nonsense is most certainly not dead. Rode LGW-YVR in Sept-Oct with whatever they call their cabin manager maintaining an excruciating, non-stop, non-funny, quite...
by True North
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet might as well rebrand itself as Canadian
Replies: 26
Views: 6273

Re: WestJet might as well rebrand itself as Canadian

Business people still won't fly WJ. I know I won't. That is unless they change their FA training to be more professional and less "jokey" along with the pilots PAs. Just cause there is a J class now means jack shot if no companies will fly with them. Too many people are long committed to the Aeropl...
by True North
Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

complexintentions wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:56 pm
Ahhh...WestJet...you put the "fun" in "dysfunctional"... :mrgreen:

Geezuz, how far a band of 737-floggers has fallen...
Ain't that the truth.
by True North
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

Glad to see you “managed” to get around the poor starting pay. Believe me they hate you. But you are insignificant now so they’ll just deal with with you while they have to. It’s called being professional. Professional like not being a scab. I feel sorry for you and the rest of those that go to wor...
by True North
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Whoops....Swoops
Replies: 7
Views: 3551

Re: Whoops....Swoops

That's not correct - the aircraft already has ETOPS approval from the various CAAs as part of the Type Certification process. For individual Airlines ETOPS approval is given by the state of registry. It's not about ETOPS, it's type approval. When WestJet receives their first 787 it will be added to...
by True North
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:54 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Whoops....Swoops
Replies: 7
Views: 3551

Re: Whoops....Swoops

Actually it's not that simple either. Anytime an airline adds a new type they must get regulatory approval from every country they want to fly to with that type. That's not correct - the aircraft already has ETOPS approval from the various CAAs as part of the Type Certification process. For individ...
by True North
Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Whoops....Swoops
Replies: 7
Views: 3551

Re: Whoops....Swoops

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/swoop-u-s-destinations-cancellations-permits-approvals-1.4870626 Begs the question....is 787 overseas being marketed yet, and if so does WJ have the related approvals and slots for long haul ops? This can't be a serious question in an airline forum but... FYI;...
by True North
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

We can disagree just fine on it. I think comparing yourself to others next door doing a similar job are fair comparisons, No it's not a fair comparison, for the reasons I previously stated, not to mention a population base 10x that of Canada. We will have to agree to disagree. I get it, you're anti...
by True North
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:08 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

Aerobud, you obviously have no understanding of rates of pay and benefits of companies overseas apart from what you find on the internet. Any of us can find internet 'facts' to support our argument, but as someone who worked 20 years as an expat in Asia, the ME and Europe, I can tell you the number...
by True North
Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

And the comparison utterly irrelevant. Maybe. Maybe not... to you. I don't think it's irrelevant, and I didn't bring it into this conversation... but if you're going to make it, make it accurately. I'm not trying to put anything down, but we need to keep an accurate picture of where we actually sta...
by True North
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

I think to say Spirit/WestJet pay is remotely equivalent is grossly inaccurate. And the comparison utterly irrelevant. I'm not trying to put anything down, but we need to keep an accurate picture of where we actually stand in terms of pay and compensation in this country . So why are you comparing ...
by True North
Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Hey Tbaylx, Enough with the cavalier attitude. Every time we here that disgusting call sign on the radio we all die inside. My "jumpseat" will never be open to the "26". Pound sand, Regards, The rest of Canadian aviation Wow. I don't know for sure but I'm guessing your medical benefits plan covers ...
by True North
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: The End of the WPDL Confirmed

JohnnyHotRocks wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:49 am
Anyone remember when the Jazz pilots flying the 757 were the lowest paid in North America? They made even less than the Skyservice guys before them.
Ignorant and uninformed.
by True North
Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: The End of the WPDL Confirmed

Actually No, they don't, but you just go along and keep telling yourself as much and anyone naïve enough to listen. :goodman: Where do you come up with this stuff ? It's borderline tinfoil - hat ramblings . No they don't do "retroactive dues" they do a "one time assessment". But you just keep telli...
by True North
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:45 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Hahaha. I'm an average pilot at best my friend! :D Can't say that I've ever been deemed un-upgradeable though. Can all the "OTS" captains make that claim? :wink: I have no idea but they are undoubtedly more mature and professional. If I were a WestJet pilot I would be profoundly embarrassed to admi...
by True North
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

LOL! Oh, I get it now! You're using the "but he started it" defence. Makes perfect sense and nicely compliments your "nana nana boo boo, I'm right you're wrong" celebration in an early post. My bad... :lol: They let you guys fly airplanes? No wonder they were trying to hire OTS Hahaha. I'm an avera...
by True North
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?
Replies: 81
Views: 14315

Re: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?

Are WJ pilots paid in magic fairy dust, or something other than cold hard currency? You've obviously been snorting some of that dust to proclaim that pilot wages have no bearing on the bottom line or CASM. Wages are a COST. You do know the "C" in CASM stands for COST, right? And pilot wages are a s...
by True North
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:18 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?
Replies: 81
Views: 14315

Re: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?

Some people still buy it - that it's all about the pilots and our wages. The fact is that you could pay the guys in the front nothing and it wouldn't even show as a blip on reducing CASM meaningfully. Utter bollocks and100% wrong. Certainly what the union types would like you to believe. You have o...
by True North
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:18 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?
Replies: 81
Views: 14315

Re: They were going to lock everyone out and shut the doors?

Some people still buy it - that it's all about the pilots and our wages. The fact is that you could pay the guys in the front nothing and it wouldn't even show as a blip on reducing CASM meaningfully. Utter bollocks and100% wrong. Certainly what the union types would like you to believe. You have o...
by True North
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: China_CAAC's Merged Threads
Replies: 772
Views: 61855

Re: The End of the WPDL Confirmed

the Arbitrator saw that they were hired by WJ and awarded them a Date of Hire spot on the list, keep in mind the airline could have been arguing to keep them in their current positions to saw on training costs. By-pass pay should provide enough incentive to have everyone in a seniority appropriate ...
by True North
Sun May 27, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Swoop pilots will not be working under WJ WAWCON. I also predict you will not see any great gains in your current WAWCON, you may even go backwards This is also what I suspect will happen but hoping to be proven wrong. I will consider it a win and well worth the ALPA dues if the WJ and Woops WAWCON...
by True North
Sun May 27, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Keep telling yourself that Legacy. When all is said and done I'll be quite happy to come back and you can tell me, I told you so. :lol:

Ain't going to happen.

But do carry on.
by True North
Sun May 27, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 80387

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

I’m not sure anyone here understands what went on. Lol. It’s not a B scale. It’s one set of working conditions. If it’s a B scale at Swoop it’ll be a B scale at Mainline. i.e if it moves to reserve or 18 days worked, it’ll be the same at both WJ and Swoop. If the WJ pilot group was willing to accep...
by True North
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Rumo(u)rs.
Replies: 14
Views: 3765

Re: Rumo(u)rs.

Forums don’t bother me.. trolls (normally) don’t bother me. He doesn’t have one side or the other’s interests at heart.. just himself. So how is that different than anyone else on here? There isn't a gram of altruism in anything going on in this mess. No one is doing anything for the greater good, ...

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