Search found 1168 matches

by fleet16b
Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:17 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Crashed on Takeoff Thread
Replies: 15
Views: 2821

Re: Crashed on Takeoff Thread

The reality of the incident The new owner of the aircraft had only 2 familiarization flights in right seat and had never done even one landing The flight to Lubitz Field was her first time left seat . There was an experienced pilot in the right seat but he had no time in type . Both were advised ag...
by fleet16b
Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:08 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Crashed on Takeoff Thread
Replies: 15
Views: 2821

Re: Crashed on Takeoff Thread

Both were advised against the flight but elected to go anyway. For what reason? By whom? On arrival at Lubitz , the aircraft almost went off the end of the runway on landing. This should have been a warning sign. The field is 1980ft grass , short for a Swift with full fuel and two people The aircra...
by fleet16b
Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:44 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Crashed on Takeoff Thread
Replies: 15
Views: 2821

Re: Crashed on Takeoff Thread

The reality of the incident The new owner of the aircraft had only 2 familiarization flights in right seat and had never done even one landing The flight to Lubitz Field was her first time left seat . There was an experienced pilot in the right seat but he had no time in type . Both were advised aga...
by fleet16b
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:00 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Two World War II-Era Planes Collide and Crash at Texas Airshow
Replies: 14
Views: 3037

Re: Two World War II-Era Planes Collide and Crash at Texas Airshow

Other video shows a variety of aircraft airborne at the same time in what may have been a somewhat complicated maneuver as compared to simpler fly-bay’s. When there are different groups of aircraft doing different maneuvers, the risk factor increases. Watching the various videos , I agree with the ...
by fleet16b
Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:50 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Two World War II-Era Planes Collide and Crash at Texas Airshow
Replies: 14
Views: 3037

Re: Two World War II-Era Planes Collide and Crash at Texas Airshow

Old fella wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:43 am Sadly, the death rate saga continues with these type of aircraft flying displays.
Ya we should just put an outright ban on ALL flying of any type by mankind because GA has even way more accidents than the Historic Aircraft world does 🙄
by fleet16b
Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:03 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

I also wonder after the student finishes turn back training how long will the competency last ? If the pilot has an EFATO the next day they are going to ace it, but what about in 6 months or a year. The penalty for skill fade in this maneuver is particularly harsh. Given the realities of how many h...
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:12 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

I don't think I was clear enough about what I teach. I do not tell my students to never ever turn one degree after the EFATO I tell them not to start the turn back maneuver, i.e. an immediate descending 45 deg banked turn. I tell them to turn enough using a moderate bank angle where that turn will ...
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:48 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

Dangerous like spins? And stalls? Exactly like spins and stalls Look at the Kamloops incident The pilot zoomed as per training . However , he was did not maintain sufficient forward airspeed in order to assess the situation resulting in a stall /spin scenario In other words he never even got the st...
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

We don’t teach students to turn back to the departure runway at low altitude.” And perhaps that’s the problem. One cannot help but observe that if it was something that was taught instead of improvised on the spot, outcomes would improve. The reason it’s not taught is that it’s a dangerous practice...
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:35 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

The quote below is straight from an RCAF Instructors mouth . (Like I’ve said all along the “turnback “ at low altitude with engine failure is NOT a good idea . There are many here that seem to think it’s standard RCAF procedure . ) “ I can’t speak to the source who gave you this info on another foru...
by fleet16b
Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:00 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

FCA55B16-5102-4CC7-AC0C-60C0D9475018.jpeg
FCA55B16-5102-4CC7-AC0C-60C0D9475018.jpeg (578.6 KiB) Viewed 1989 times
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:13 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

Well once again the Team has been grounded . Incidents are getting more and more frequent . At some point reality needs to kick in here. The Snowbirds have had a great run but it can’t last forever flying these antiques. National pride and stubbornness is going to get more people killed . I wonder ...
by fleet16b
Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:59 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

Well once again the Team has been grounded .
Incidents are getting more and more frequent .
At some point reality needs to kick in here.
The Snowbirds have had a great run but it can’t last forever flying these antiques.
National pride and stubbornness is going to get more people killed .
by fleet16b
Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:10 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

Looks like that 180 degree turn does work after all , of performed properly. Seem to remember a heated discussion about it with the last Snowbird accident. One swallow doesn’t make a meal. The 180 still goes against one of the basic rules in aviation not matter how one wants to spin it Military pil...
by fleet16b
Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:08 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

Maybe it’s time to put pride aside and discontinue the Team wtf? Or just switch to Hawks like the Red Arrows etc? Why discontinue when it's just a matter of newer equipment? Not a bad idea however our Governments cheap out on the idea That is why they are still using antiquated equipment. My idea w...
by fleet16b
Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:31 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird accident 😢
Replies: 89
Views: 11262

Re: Snowbird accident 😢

The issues with this Team are getting more and more frequent They have had a great run and have kept these aircraft going much longer than they ever should have Maybe it’s time to put pride aside and discontinue the Team The RCAF could set up a Heritage flight consisting of Tutors in the following s...
by fleet16b
Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:05 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: CHAA Harvard Wingtip Strike Geneseo
Replies: 6
Views: 1409

Re: CHAA Harvard Wingtip Strike Geneseo

Looking at the videos , it it very apparent that the aircraft ground looped towards the corn. The input of the flight controls tell the tale. This is the fourth incident in 4 operating seasons for CHAA 3 groundloops causing much damage and one engine overspeed. It’s apparent that CHAA is having some...
by fleet16b
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:34 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

Fleet, read what others are trying to tell you. When you have an ejection seat, your decision-making process is very different than when you fly an aircraft that don't. Having flown with one makes it much easier to appreciate those differences. Your options in similar situations are not binary ie 1...
by fleet16b
Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:12 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

I just have a question. Why is turning 45 degrees ok? To be more clear ; Slight heading changes while maintaining a positive forward direction with sufficient and safe airspeed. Making aggressive turns as in 90deg or more as has been seen so many times in aviation is not a good idea But it’s an int...
by fleet16b
Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:32 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Snowbird crash in CYKA
Replies: 435
Views: 53752

Re: Snowbird crash in CYKA

Erroneously trying to apply conclusions from this incident into areas with which you are not familiar. The turn back didn’t work this time. However, it has worked quite often in the past for military training aircraft. I’ve talked to guys who’ve done it for real, I’ve done it in the sim and I’ve pr...

Go to advanced search