You show me the AIP where it said it was only subject to pilot vote and I'll concede. There are always subjects for approval on both sides with an agreement like this. Ultimately your company didn't approve it. It doesn't matter if that came from AC influence on the board, which is what is most lik...

You show me the AIP where it said it was only subject to pilot vote and I'll concede. There are always subjects for approval on both sides with an agreement like this. Ultimately your company didn't approve it. It doesn't matter if that came from AC influence on the board, which is what is most like...

Jazz management overstepped their mandate. That were reigned in by your board of directors. I'll say again, TAs and AIPs are not locked in deals. They are subject to approval on both sides every time. Just like the union membership can vote down a deal. The corporate officers can say no. Ultimately ...

Air Canada is represented on your Board of Directors. Ultimately it's your Board of Directors that directed the action. TAs and AIPs aren't locked in deals until they are confirmed and ratified on both sides or replaced with a different deal. Wasn't confirmed, was ultimately replaced. Sucks, but tha...

It confounds me why everyone focuses on the flow violation, that is secondary to the actual reason the ULP was filed, AC interference with our collective bargaining and denying us an agreed upon MOU. That is the biggest issue at hand, we had an agreement and AC denied it, resulting in a lesser agre...

Nobody with one ounce of Union / Contract Language / CIRB knowledge thought this was ever going to go anywhere. There were Jazz Flow through Pilots convinced that there would be a complete reorder of the Seniority List, rocketing them up hundreds of numbers. Never underestimate the power of an Echo...

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The eye opener is here...

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Imagine if KV and what's his name that went to work for BS hadn't done the preemptive 10 year deal in 2014? Had we waited for 2016 to go back to the negotiating table after the FOS contract expired? After the company announced record profits in '14 & '15 & '16. After the US pilot contracts started t...

The problem is the whole tone and attitude of posters in this site today. All there is is tossing shit and putting people on defensive. "Air Canada sucks and the pilots are pansies" "The boomers fucked us" "ALPA are a joke" It's all bullshit and only divides. We need to be bringing up issues that ar...

Holy Fock. Get off their thread already... I was simply pointing out that there is in fact a MBG, not saying it couldn't be better, for these guys to have an accurate comparison. Go work on your comprehension. No you weren't. I spelled it out for you 10 posts ago and you continued being a dense twa...

Holy Fock. Get off their thread already... I was simply pointing out that there is in fact a DBM, not saying it couldn't be better, for these guys to have an accurate comparison.

Go work on your comprehension.

How about you guys take the insults and reading lessons back over to the AC forum to discuss you CA. This place would be so much better without the fake accounts and even more so if people could communicate their ideas without calling each other names. There's no way you would talk to each other fa...

I get what youre saying poors, but you do have a guarantee every month. It just isn't always 75 hrs. Perhaps it should be, but thats a different discussion. My friend on the 67 told me his was 73 hr guarantee this month. So if he flies 65, he still gets 73. Then, at the end of the year this again g...

Insult insult blah blah blah insult insult toss more shit. What is your defect dude? Did nobody love you as a child? The fact is there is a monthly MBG that is variable based on DBM for both block holders and reserve pilots. I detailed it earlier which you ignored. I provided the relevant article re...

Its right there. From what I read, AC pilots completely have a monthly guarantee, not even just in the first 2 years. You guys dont even know your own contract?! Thats a pretty big article to not know... Big time credibility from this group... Too toxic, too busy riding the shit-on-everyone-in-site...

MBG is A13.04. Read it closer. I'm aware, what line says anything about a monthly guarantee? Don't you know what a block is? Maybe you should look at the definitions found in article 2. 2.01.11 Block - An assigned or awarded schedule of flying which may include vacation and/or training. 2.01.14 Blo...

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Fucking spoiled degenerate. Murdered a regular family guy just trying to sell his truck...

I already posted it above.

MBG is A13.04. Read it closer.

How about wages at Air BC, Air Nova, Cdn Regional, Air Alliance? Those also blended to create the Jazz pay scale, right?

What is the average new hire age and experience level at Jazz today? Left seat?

What was it 25 years ago in that job?

If anyone has specific questions later this week I'll try to answer them after the roadshow. More info once I see all the language too. I will not address any of the childish comments or attacks. I'll say this about starting wage and bottom of the list pay, we secured full years of service. That wa...

Just providing the facts of it because what was posted above is somewhat wrong. You're quick to jump on how Delta never falls back to their 65 hour DBM because line values are higher, fact is that AC pilots don't really get MBG because their line values are higher too... But I agree that a 75/month ...

If you say so. But I disagree.

My impression is that 4 out of 5, or probably even more, have little spine to stand up against to a crew scheduler or manager and tell them no, this just gives them another reason to be compliant and make it work for everyone else.