We've beaten this to death before... I'll take guaranteed salary over profit share every day. Any time I can convert a capped variable payment - a payment that is dependent on what is the least frequently profitable industry in the world profiting, from a company with a background of baggage, misman...

Lies, Damned lies, Accounting...

All lies and hidden money anyway...

In the past the Association has tasked a working group to audit the numbers and verify actual payouts accurately. They didn't just flip EBITDAR for EBITDA...

Have you written your rep and asked what they do?

Recall 8% of salary cap at max payout wouldn't be near 30K payout for anyone.

I do see management guidance pointing at 20% EBITDA target in the next few years which would trigger payout under the raised threshold.

Before optimizer C and the 16 day cap blocks on the 320 were pretty good for everyone except a handful at the very bottom. Junior reserve went senior to the junior block holder. 50% 320 would be maybe 12 day blocks and every weekend off. Above that got even better. You did your time and worked up qu...

I have been fully released a few times with an award like that. Just by asking. It's a start is all I'm saying. So many people love to bitch and complain, but the fact is until last year they would hold trips in open until 2-4 hours before check in. And you knew you were getting it but they refused...

thepoors wrote: ↑Thu Feb 19, 2026 11:00 am

Bingo Fuel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 19, 2026 9:06 am

thepoors wrote: ↑Thu Feb 19, 2026 8:47 am Weak leadership, bad negotiators, loser mindset. Something has to change.

Cool. Can't wait to see your name on a nomination.

Good luck.

Or quit if I don't like it right? How original.

Sounds like the very opposite of quit.

Look forward to see you stepping up and leading.

The "2 days out" is bullshit unless you get at the perfect time, with the perfect RAP on your last day off. You still need to be there or you're fucked when they call. They're firing new guys that aren't in base for an assignment on reserve because they assumed they were good. First one is a meetin...

The "2 days out" is bullshit unless you get at the perfect time, with the perfect RAP on your last day off. You still need to be there or you're fucked when they call. They're firing new guys that aren't in base for an assignment on reserve because they assumed they were good. First one is a meeting...

All positions need massive raises, not just NB. Like 90% raises to put is in the ballpark of American pilots. All of us are undervalued. We need to eliminate the captain flying pay gap in the pay formula component and push it higher on all fleets . Take a look at how formula pay is structured. Base...

To take home the same as the United or Delta FOs you would need to gross $580,000 CAD here. And? Look, changes to tax law are beyond us and currency fluctuating is another thing altogether... I don't have all those answers... But the point is... you want to get paid " like " US Majors, right? Well,...

That explains a lot...

What are you talking about? 1. A350 would be an entirely new type at Air Canada 2. B777X will share a common type with B777 3. Easy never factors into Air Canada management plans although they are so cheap that it ends up costing them I was under the impression that Airbus types have a simplified c...

The A350 exists, and has a type certificate and is in commercial service. It comes from a stable and predictable country (really a group of countries). 777x is still in flight testing, no type certificate. It's made in a country with chaotic and unpredictable economic policies. I know which one I'd...

Take a look at the United pay table. You want to get paid like United, right?

12 year 777 FO $330/hr
12 year 220 CA $375/hr
12 year 321 CA $405/hr

$45-$75/hr difference.

See the trend?

Are Canadian NB Pilots worth less?

Dry Guy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:47 pm I don't think we should be comparing overtime to straight time.

Take a look at the Delta pay table. You want to get paid like Delta, right?

12 year 350 FO $330/hr
12 year 220 CA $375/hr
12 year 321 CA $405/hr

787 FOs in many cases are working 1/3 less days, taking home more pay, and shouldering less responsibility than 320/737/220 CAs. It what scenarios are FOs making more than Captains? Year 12 widebody instructor FO doing VO vs a year 3 narrowbody captain on junior reserve at MBG. Here's an example. Y...

Guys, Seattle has a port. I'm not talking about loss of Pacific port for Alberta, but loss of Pacific port for Canada. Severance of the railway to the Pacific wipes out connection to the largest non-US market for steel, manufacturing, minerals, and more from from Central and Eastern Canada. Will Am...

Why? We will simply extort Alberta for all of the oil that has to go through the Trans Mountain pipeline and any imported goods they want to bring in. People don’t realize how small Alberta’s economy is in the grand scheme of things. Alberta isn’t even as big as Toronto.. plus it’s far less diverse...

Do you guys think Air Canada would remain a viable airline if Canada were to become part of the United States? Obviously they'd have to more than double pilot salaries to retain any crew but otherwise would they be able to compete with US legacy airlines? The problem in this scenario is that Canada...

All the more reason to increase NB wages and reduce the delta with WB pay. More people are going to spend more time in NBs whether domestic on the max/xlr overseas - and that's no cake walk, small flight decks, no augment, no cappuccinos. NB guys are the hardest working group in this airline by far...

All the more reason to increase NB wages and reduce the delta with WB pay. More people are going to spend more time in NBs whether domestic on the max/xlr overseas - and that's no cake walk, small flight decks, no augment, no cappuccinos. NB guys are the hardest working group in this airline by far....

Flyboy736 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 22, 2026 2:15 pm From 4th hand information ALPA national has commented they have never seen such toxic management as those at Air Canada.

Fact. I heard it first hand that ALPA HQ reps commented it's the worst employee/employer relations of any ALPA property.

AC manages to find ways to move up deliveries on new orders every time. Either Boeing or Airbus want to get the order and will meet the need somehow. The used market can be an advantageous place to look too. Delta has used it extensively, works for them. Nobody really cares about paint, why not get ...

I understand Transat has better pay and lifestyle now? Why would you start over? Maybe pension and benefits? You have to weigh it out... I'd be hesitant to give up a number if you already have time in there... If you do come, you just need a big bullshit filter and to learn to ignore most of what yo...

These guys have no vision only risk aversion. And they don't want to compete, we are abandoning market share.