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by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:38 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

The circling theory does not make sense. An experienced crew that had been there many times before would never circle to that side, or circle in general in CYRB. There is no need for it with good approaches to either runway. Something happened, and the VOR scenario doesn't make much sense either. B...
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:10 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

The circling theory does not make sense. An experienced crew that had been there many times before would never circle to that side, or circle in general in CYRB. There is no need for it with good approaches to either runway. Something happened, and the VOR scenario doesn't make much sense either. B...
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:01 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

Each side can't track either NAV with the HSI independently to begin with?
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:44 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

Nutbutter I think you now understand how that switch works, and more important is that it should be used with a great deal of caution. I could see that switch if turned to the wrong NAV setting would cause both Captain and F/O HSI's to read the VOR instead of the LOC. I have no idea why an airplane...
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:16 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

http://www.airliners.net/photo/First-Air/Boeing-737-210C-Adv/0952293/L/&sid=ab659b4af1c0576c327ee39494c3cc7a http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1929/0952293.jpg WTF is this? Is this the switch posted about earlier in the thread? Panel is from the accident airplane apparently. Couldn't find a shot of...
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:44 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

Lost in Saigon wrote: We have some "Rookies" playing at "ATC", requesting pointless VOR radial/distance information from a civilian aircraft about to shoot an ILS to minimums in some of the most challenging conditions on this planet.
This also made me laugh hard.
by nutbutter
Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:36 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

VOR and DME information should be set up on number 2 should it not? The ILS flown on number one, and if completing a straight in, the runway OBS'd on the GPS for the self vector. If you're flying the straight in ILS with the runway OBS'd and you switch to the VOR instead of the LOC, you're going to ...
by nutbutter
Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:35 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

"Last time I checked circuit procedures at VFR airports it was written in the CARs that you have to join from the downwind, or cross midfield. I don't remember it being written that you can join a straight in... In reality people join the circuit from whatever direction is easiest." Check again and...
by nutbutter
Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:51 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

It is very common to do straight in approaches at uncontrolled airports. You can ask various Transport types if it is legal, but if you ask 10 different inspectors, you'll get about 20 different answers as to how legal it is. It's perfectly legal to do a straight in VFR approach at an uncontrolled ...
by nutbutter
Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:54 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: This week's Maclean's Cover Story
Replies: 41
Views: 5480

Re: This week's Maclean's Cover Story

The article is alarmist claptrap. Automation makes it possible to fly advanced aircraft. The only way to achieve safe efficient flight in high speed, high altitude aircraft up against the coffin corner and in tightly defined airspace is to use automation and have the flight crew "manage" the system...
by nutbutter
Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:08 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: This week's Maclean's Cover Story
Replies: 41
Views: 5480

Re: This week's Maclean's Cover Story

Not all pilot error is because of 'stick-and-rudder' errors, I would submit that it rarely is. That's not the point, the point is we shouldn't have any of these at the 705 level. The Dash 8 in Buffalo, and Air France 447 are prime examples. Those were rookie moves. Rookies aren't supposed to be fly...
by nutbutter
Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:03 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: Nice clean 206 for sale.
Replies: 14
Views: 2183

Re: Nice clean 206 for sale.

The minimum bid is $159,000. From those in the know, and given that this was maintained by the deep pockets of Transport Canada, is this considered to be a good deal? This sounds like a great deal FYI, someone is going to get an awesome airplane (albeit a 206), for that price. Edit: the winning clo...
by nutbutter
Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:59 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: Nice clean 206 for sale.
Replies: 14
Views: 2183

Re: Nice clean 206 for sale.

550, tip extensions, flaperon kit, copliot door, BAS harnesses, 206's don't get any nicer than that bird. Why you wouldn't just go out and get a 185 though where all the mods aren't necessary, and it still performs better is just beyond me though. The only thing that airplane can do that the 185 can...
by nutbutter
Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:24 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

btw, can someone post the rest of the plates including the LOC BC and the airport diagram please and thanks/?
by nutbutter
Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:13 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

Edit:
What's the tail wind limitations of the airplane and/or First Air?
by nutbutter
Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:16 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: FAA Restricts "Revolving Door" For Inspectors
Replies: 1
Views: 639

Re: FAA Restricts "Revolving Door" For Inspectors

bk53182 wrote: Goodness... if this rule was in Canada, - what would all the ex inspectors do?
Same thing they do now, Consulting lol.
by nutbutter
Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:10 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: This week's Maclean's Cover Story
Replies: 41
Views: 5480

Re: This week's Maclean's Cover Story

The solution is not more automation. The solution is a better man machine interface that provides sensory stimulation and feedback and SOP's that require a more hands on approach instead of simply monitoring. Airplanes need to become fun to fly again. Too often do I fly with an individual (usually t...
by nutbutter
Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:40 am
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

hartley wrote:There seems to be discussion on the ILS Inbound track versus the VOR inbound track. Possibly you should address the "Instrument Transfer Switch" system, if this 737 was so equipped.
What is that?
by nutbutter
Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:15 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread

With the availability of a Straight in LOC/BC or GNSS approach to RWY 17 and the crews knowledge and familiarity of local terrain and given a wx report like this, I think the last thing the crew would have been doing is a circling approach to the east towards that hill. If you look at the photo you...
by nutbutter
Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:55 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

I assume this was the last weather. Correction, this was the weather 20 minutes after the accident. METAR CYRB 201800Z 19008KT 10SM VCFG SCT003 OVC010 07/07 A2983 RMK SF3ST5 SLP108= At the airport, there doesn't seem to be any difficulty in getting in on either the full ILS or the localizer. It loo...
by nutbutter
Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:19 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011
Replies: 488
Views: 78818

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

How bout a misjudge on a contact or a circling upon reentering IMC? Not much altitude to play with on that circling it looks like to me. Hard to believe anyone would circle in an airplane that big though, especially in and around that terrain, buy maybe I just don't know any better. Skylink Metro in...
by nutbutter
Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:29 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

That's kind of irresponsible of The National Post. Lets get real here, we're no more than a group of dudes pontificating over a few pints of beer! To quote us, as if we are aviation "experts" is ludicrous, at best! That's disgusting. The National Post is disgusting. They can quote me on that. Agree...
by nutbutter
Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:26 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

lol quite the source that idiot news writer has got, an anonymous internet forum lol, maybe he should site wikipedia or something for the definition of CFIT.
That's just classless, poor reporting.
by nutbutter
Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:14 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

modi.....please stop......seriously You know I hate to say it, but this is an anonymous internet forum, not the funeral. If you don't like it, you don't need to read it. We all come to this place to post stuff we can't talk about at work, its an outlet for some of us that don't like to get involved...
by nutbutter
Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:22 pm
Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
Topic: Resolute Bay Accident - Pilots Discussion Thread
Replies: 282
Views: 46245

Re: First Air Crash Resolute Bay August 20 2011

very sad and condolences to all of the above crew and family// i cant remember how many times as a kid my dad would phone home saying his 7 week tour just got extended but the bright side was its just 2 more weeks in res bay. back in the pwa era pan arctic oil days, lookin after a couple of bell206...

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