Be careful dudes. Rumour has it that company is fighting/arguing interpretations of the CBA and PTA. CEO is trying to force pilots into furlough without using layoff pay or the PTA. No layoff pay because of force majeure clause and no bump down protection is interpreted by the compnay because there...

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Havent heard anything. Wouldnt think so.

Agree with all the above math and risks.

Imperial = Emprical

The arbritration of Esp replacement has potential to revamp upt to 40% of Westjet Pilot pay.
Significant.
We'll see in April.

That is a weird post ^. You trying to sound like Yoda? A pilot must be one with the market force? Alot of your post explains details that are simply not true or not true yet I suppose. You've made huge leaps in what you think is going to happen and what has actually been stated. 30 tails to Swoop? N...

Yes, would be nice to have everything indexed.

Onex - doesnt care. Its obvious. They have communicated zero to us.
Westjet mgmt still runs the show and following the strategic plan for WB growth.

I understand your POV, but a couple of your statements are false. There is incentive- REIP $14,400/year for 2 years if you flow to Westjet. Also - you accrue senirorty on the list, not YOS, but senoeiry ahead of any OTS hires. If you work at Jazz those two incentives dont exist. Also- the union is w...

We need the max for alot of Westjet network growth, but what we will see through the JV is alot of growth in our load factor on our wide bodies to international destinations. We already have exceeded our widebody loadfactors targets for an intial launch. With that being said, flying 10 widebodies fu...

Thbaks for replying. The models and studies I read were completed in 2018. These studies modeled fleet and recruiting plan for AC as a plateau of 2020, 2021 numbers ~ 1000 new hires each year, then declining to ~ 200 new hires in 2025. I read the average new hire at AC is 36, Westjet similar, that w...

The entire pilot market is going to get squeezed again as Jazz has published a bid with 30-40 vacancies for Captains for the first time in recent years. Now with both Mainline operators and both regionals hiring at unprecedented levels, the next 24 months is a pilots dream and a recruiting challenge...

Outsiders being employees from other airlines... sources are the employees who have worked in the industry for long enough years and seen travel passes policies before. That's all.

I'm been at Westjet 4 years. Encore flow pilot. Take home pay is still less than I made flying king air 350. Cashflow per month is $3000. $2000/mth into employee share plan. Difficult to run a household with our setup. If the union and company doesnt completely revamp the take home pay system by Apr...

Alot of mixed opinions...employees are claiming good load factors and outsiders are seeing red flags. As usual, never a dull day.

A normal T4 is around 100k.
If you work OT you can earn $115K.
If you are a training captain and work OT and work your ass off. $130K.

It's hard to say. To answer your question. They would profit indirectly. Which isnt s monetary amount that can be seen or touched by anyone pilot. What I mean by that, is that the company would be able to recruit and raise morale which has an impact on profitability and health of the airline. Which ...

I agree. Those pilots hired at encore after may 14, although not all would be fully 100% aware of the politics, would of atleast known the result of the vote may 14, that is the argument from the people who are trying to pass resolution. Either way - all pilots hired at either airline are considered...

No. If the resolution passes, all encore pilots hired before May 14, 2019, their senirority is made whole. Maintaining seniority start date on the westjet pilot senirorty list. Pilots after May 14, start to accrue more senirorty than new hires at encore.

Oh ok, sorry for misinterpretation,. Thanks for the info. Very interesting and good to know.

Ya I agree with yycjetdriver, selling a depreciating assest at a profit, then leasing back at favorable terms, is good business sense, especially when your trying to spread capital across multiple divisions of the company. It's quite common. It also reduces risks on the company books, allowing more ...

Yup...that marh works.
My thesis from the beginning is Onex is interested in rapid expansion of swoop to 30 tails. Why wouldn't an investment firm want to expand an operation.at those cost metrics.

He means Scott Wilson (SW), VP Ops at WJA. 300 is alot for Westjet, I think the most they have hired in one year 170ish. If they plan to hire 300, that's massive for our size of operation. Wait to hear the official numbers in the coming weeks. I'll add - we dont control hiring for link. Also - when ...

Most are encore and swoop. I think GS is late October not Nov.

If you are hired at mainline as YYZ FO, it would be 4 or 5 years before being able to hold YYC with one list intact. Depending on what our group decides regarding the direction of the one list, that could change. If the one list dies - and all pilots retain their senirority and all future hired pilo...

Westjet keeps claiming they are gearing up for a mass hiring, but I've heard that for 2 years. I've heard multiple managers tell me 500 pilots. October is suppose to be a big bid. We will se if big bid means 12 spots or 60 spots.

I'll add, just to be clear in your scenario, if you were to start today as encore FO, work four years, with the ONE lolist intact, you most likely would not be able to hold YYC FO when you flowed. There are hundreds of pilots in front of you trying to do the same thing. For example, I've been at Enc...