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by Morry Bund
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:32 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

The 3 wise men will render a decision in about 8 weeks! NW Two wise men and one wise woman will render the decision. The panel was composed of Madame Justice Johanne Trudel, Justice Richard Boivin and Justice Denis Pelletier. We are awaiting a detailed update from our counsel, but word is that thin...
by Morry Bund
Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:46 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
Replies: 39
Views: 7761

Re: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY

Your case is weak. If you win, so be it; we must all follow the rules of the land. As a laymen, I clearly see carefully inserted comments like "wrongful termination" "fired" "forced resignation" "wrongful dismissal" used to "lace" and falsely dress your arguement , making it appear far more than it...
by Morry Bund
Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:10 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
Replies: 39
Views: 7761

Re: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY

The core of rights issues to me are ones where somebody is harmed due to an attribute that they have no control over- skin colour, gender etc. Choosing an employer is a crapshoot, and we all just pick the one we think offers the best overall package for career progression and thus earnings. Air Can...
by Morry Bund
Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:16 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

You were not "TERMINATED" .......that means fired. Are you using that term to add drama, and make it appear you've been violated somehow? You RETIRED at a mutually agreed upon point. They could have used 'years of service' ....instead, everyone who was hired at Air Canada agreed in a mutual way, th...
by Morry Bund
Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:28 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

How can you consider things that are not part of the law, just because somebody complained about it. You are either miscomprehending the exemption provision or misstating it, or both, although I do give you credit for discussing the issue rationally rather than emotionally or dogmatically. The cond...
by Morry Bund
Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:40 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Geez...that's pretty vague.....sometime after but not before......hope you're not using that arguement in front of a judge. Air Canada was supose to just blindly follow which other Canadian airlines leed in extending the agreed upon retirement age? Jazz??? Westjet??? Are you aware of the reason it ...
by Morry Bund
Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:46 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

I accept that this is now the law. I just don't see how anybody is due any compensation for it changing. The fact is that they are not due any compensation for it changing. But they are due compensation for the fact that before the human rights act exemption was repealed in 2012, the exemption was ...
by Morry Bund
Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:41 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

There is the issue of accuracy that has meaning to me. But closer to the litigation at hand, the Federal courts rulings look as if they may be looking at this. Not to change my lot in life of course. That's done. Rather to look at how much financial harm really took place for the litigants against ...
by Morry Bund
Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:13 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Academic, moot, speculative, theoretical—however one describes it, the discussion of what a pilot's career income expectations could have been, would have been, should have been, isn’t going to make any difference to that career income expectation now. There is no sense in arguing over graphs and sp...
by Morry Bund
Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:17 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

I have close relationships with folks, and their families, that were discriminated against as their age approached a magic number. After a long career they were told that they were no longer acceptable as employees. Many of them had fought in WW2. It is my intent to see them compensated (their esta...
by Morry Bund
Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:24 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

I just finished reading the submissions and am not too concerned. I doubt that the FP60 group will have anything to celebrate about. It seems to me that they have quite a hill to climb in order to gain retribution for their perceived losses. Interesting. Your read of the submissions is obviously di...
by Morry Bund
Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:58 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

For the record I never entered the FP 60 debate, as it was made explicitly clear when I was hired that a seniority based system worked on the premise that you sacrifice early in your career for a "fixed run" at the top.....just like every other pilot in AC's storied history has complied with. “Expl...
by Morry Bund
Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:04 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

.........what I don't like are individuals who've had an amazing run during the "golden years" of aviation, and want to continue that run well past it's due date at the expense of others. I'm not alone. ...I'll say from firsthand experience that career stagnation is not pleasant, and the impact of ...
by Morry Bund
Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:16 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

If you want to see some hard numbers, then maybe it is time to give a voice to the junior pilots, those most affected and caught in the pay pool. What was advertised as a transitional process has become a chronic financial backslide for these individuals and their families. I bet this group would l...
by Morry Bund
Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:59 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Ya, I'm calling out that process. Exactly. After 60 medicals and sim evals are going to have to get really really serious. Please re-post the news clip of you carrying your protest sign in front of the Transport Canada offices in Ottawa, flagging this treacherous safety issue and your noble cause f...
by Morry Bund
Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:36 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Just remember where that cash is coming from. It's coming from two sources, as I understand it. 50% will come from the employer. The other 50% will come from the union members who could have used logic and foresight to see the futility of fighting the inevitable, but instead, by a majority, conscio...
by Morry Bund
Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:55 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Get new legal representation if your lawyers are advising you to continue this. They can't. They are in far too deep and they are too close to the end not to play the final "hail Mary" at the court of appeal. After that they will have to let the cards fall where they may. Meanwhile, the ones who st...
by Morry Bund
Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:43 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Rockie wrote:Special assessment on dues.
I can just imagine how well that will go over...
by Morry Bund
Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:23 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Replies: 244
Views: 47735

Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals

Just wondering. This issue has been seemingly idle for some time now, but we must be getting near the end of the process. There can't be too many appeals left after the court of appeal, surely. What if the claims are successful? What kind of numbers are we looking at? Will Air Canada or ACPA be able...
by Morry Bund
Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:54 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Tribunal Reverses Thwaites Decision, Upholds Complaints
Replies: 11
Views: 1796

Re: Tribunal Reverses Thwaites Decision, Upholds Complaints

2. What is the downside liability of their decisions, so far? How many are waiting for their turn before the Tribunal, and how much will eventually be paid to them, per individual, given the 14+ months since the Federal Court precedent? I can weigh in on this question. Let's make some conservative ...
by Morry Bund
Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:03 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS
Replies: 105
Views: 18650

Re: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS

Protect the public and economy???! Really? Then I guess over 2,000 AVEOS employees do not count as part of our economy and I presume the governments of Botswana or Kazakhstan are going to support these people over the next year or so on employment insurance? Right? It looks like you missed my innue...
by Morry Bund
Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:50 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS
Replies: 105
Views: 18650

Re: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS

The government and company have to ask themselves why any illegal action they think took place occurred. A 12 year old can figure out that the deplorable state of labour relations at Air Canada and intense employee dissatisfaction is a direct result of the government and company's actions. Labour r...
by Morry Bund
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:02 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS
Replies: 105
Views: 18650

Re: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS

How has the pilot group been doing on all our other "legitimate" grievances? How many years have we been fighting some of them only to get absolutely nowhere? How much time do we have to fight this one? ... Nobody's head is on a platter either. The CIRB ruling is just toothless noise and bluster, a...
by Morry Bund
Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:55 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS
Replies: 105
Views: 18650

Re: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS

How would you react? One way that I would not react is by doing anything to turn public opinion seriously against my otherwise legitimate grievance. Nor would I react by giving the employer my head on a platter, as these individuals have done. Not only has today been an embarrassment for our union,...
by Morry Bund
Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:02 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS
Replies: 105
Views: 18650

Re: SELF-DESTRUCT -- PRESS

Well you can't really bring in military pilots to replace the AC pilots like Reagan did with the ATCO's in the 80's. And do you really think Harper has the same big brass ones Reagan did to pull that off? If pilots don't come to work, they aren't getting replaced any time soon and the flying stops....

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