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- Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:32 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
The 3 wise men will render a decision in about 8 weeks! NW Two wise men and one wise woman will render the decision. The panel was composed of Madame Justice Johanne Trudel, Justice Richard Boivin and Justice Denis Pelletier. We are awaiting a detailed update from our counsel, but word is that thin...
- Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:46 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9177
Re: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
Your case is weak. If you win, so be it; we must all follow the rules of the land. As a laymen, I clearly see carefully inserted comments like "wrongful termination" "fired" "forced resignation" "wrongful dismissal" used to "lace" and falsely dress your arguement , making it appear far more than it...
- Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:10 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9177
Re: SOME AGE 60 HISTORY
The core of rights issues to me are ones where somebody is harmed due to an attribute that they have no control over- skin colour, gender etc. Choosing an employer is a crapshoot, and we all just pick the one we think offers the best overall package for career progression and thus earnings. Air Can...
- Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:16 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
You were not "TERMINATED" .......that means fired. Are you using that term to add drama, and make it appear you've been violated somehow? You RETIRED at a mutually agreed upon point. They could have used 'years of service' ....instead, everyone who was hired at Air Canada agreed in a mutual way, th...
- Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:28 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
How can you consider things that are not part of the law, just because somebody complained about it. You are either miscomprehending the exemption provision or misstating it, or both, although I do give you credit for discussing the issue rationally rather than emotionally or dogmatically. The cond...
- Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:40 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Geez...that's pretty vague.....sometime after but not before......hope you're not using that arguement in front of a judge. Air Canada was supose to just blindly follow which other Canadian airlines leed in extending the agreed upon retirement age? Jazz??? Westjet??? Are you aware of the reason it ...
- Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:46 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
I accept that this is now the law. I just don't see how anybody is due any compensation for it changing. The fact is that they are not due any compensation for it changing. But they are due compensation for the fact that before the human rights act exemption was repealed in 2012, the exemption was ...
- Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:41 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
There is the issue of accuracy that has meaning to me. But closer to the litigation at hand, the Federal courts rulings look as if they may be looking at this. Not to change my lot in life of course. That's done. Rather to look at how much financial harm really took place for the litigants against ...
- Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:13 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Academic, moot, speculative, theoretical—however one describes it, the discussion of what a pilot's career income expectations could have been, would have been, should have been, isn’t going to make any difference to that career income expectation now. There is no sense in arguing over graphs and sp...
- Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:17 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
I have close relationships with folks, and their families, that were discriminated against as their age approached a magic number. After a long career they were told that they were no longer acceptable as employees. Many of them had fought in WW2. It is my intent to see them compensated (their esta...
- Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:24 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
I just finished reading the submissions and am not too concerned. I doubt that the FP60 group will have anything to celebrate about. It seems to me that they have quite a hill to climb in order to gain retribution for their perceived losses. Interesting. Your read of the submissions is obviously di...
- Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:58 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
For the record I never entered the FP 60 debate, as it was made explicitly clear when I was hired that a seniority based system worked on the premise that you sacrifice early in your career for a "fixed run" at the top.....just like every other pilot in AC's storied history has complied with. “Expl...
- Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:04 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
.........what I don't like are individuals who've had an amazing run during the "golden years" of aviation, and want to continue that run well past it's due date at the expense of others. I'm not alone. ...I'll say from firsthand experience that career stagnation is not pleasant, and the impact of ...
- Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:16 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
If you want to see some hard numbers, then maybe it is time to give a voice to the junior pilots, those most affected and caught in the pay pool. What was advertised as a transitional process has become a chronic financial backslide for these individuals and their families. I bet this group would l...
- Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:59 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Ya, I'm calling out that process. Exactly. After 60 medicals and sim evals are going to have to get really really serious. Please re-post the news clip of you carrying your protest sign in front of the Transport Canada offices in Ottawa, flagging this treacherous safety issue and your noble cause f...
- Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:36 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Just remember where that cash is coming from. It's coming from two sources, as I understand it. 50% will come from the employer. The other 50% will come from the union members who could have used logic and foresight to see the futility of fighting the inevitable, but instead, by a majority, conscio...
- Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:55 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Get new legal representation if your lawyers are advising you to continue this. They can't. They are in far too deep and they are too close to the end not to play the final "hail Mary" at the court of appeal. After that they will have to let the cards fall where they may. Meanwhile, the ones who st...
- Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:43 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
I can just imagine how well that will go over...Rockie wrote:Special assessment on dues.
- Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:23 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
- Replies: 244
- Views: 54676
Re: FP60 update Federal Court of Appeals
Just wondering. This issue has been seemingly idle for some time now, but we must be getting near the end of the process. There can't be too many appeals left after the court of appeal, surely. What if the claims are successful? What kind of numbers are we looking at? Will Air Canada or ACPA be able...
- Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:54 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Tribunal Reverses Thwaites Decision, Upholds Complaints
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2066
Re: Tribunal Reverses Thwaites Decision, Upholds Complaints
2. What is the downside liability of their decisions, so far? How many are waiting for their turn before the Tribunal, and how much will eventually be paid to them, per individual, given the 14+ months since the Federal Court precedent? I can weigh in on this question. Let's make some conservative ...