Good thing they killed the new duty regs, imagine if that would have made the job more attractive. Then this MP couldn't swoop in and save the day with extra money.

Who says they sell it as PPL training Because they put the fucking instructor in the right seat and the fucking instructors’ fucking PPL student in the left seat. What the @#$! else is it going to fucking be? It is flight training to get experience flying long(er) cross country flights across inter...

The problem with this as a training scenario is not that it crosses an international border. The problem is that a dozen hours flying in a straight line isn’t necessary or helpful to get a PPL. A trip from St Catharine’s to Saskatoon would be just as inappropriate. I don’t have any objection to fly...

If a PPL can't cross the border without a hand hold, my eyes roll, but it's more appropriate. How do you expect them to be confident in doing it, if they have never been shown how to do it? I'm sure a lot of people can handle it, but for those who don't, there is nothing wrong with asking for help ...

Greed? Let me tell you what's greedy. The greed comes from flight schools that can stuff 2 students and an instructor in a plane for a trip to Florida and charge dual for a trip not on any PPL Syllabus. There is ZERO purpose in Pre PPL students going on such a trip. Zero. Inexcusable. CPL, 2 or 3 t...

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Ot they got awarded the whole thing and communicated it before MB government did...?

Looks like you are right. Thank you for the reference! That could put part of the blame on the CFI though, not on the supervising class 2, unless the CFI was also the supervising class 2. and if the CFI appoints a supervisor who doesn’t supervise, whose duty to remedy that is it, and who is to blam...

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Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:25 am

“Our planes are 1000nm away in a foreign country, couldn’t tell you if they’re in the air or on the ground right now” is NOT operational control.

That's true, good point.

That satisfies all CARs, yet the supervisor does not exactly know at what time or what day this particular flight takes place. So can he be blamed if the class 4 takes off into IMC? Technically it doesn't satisfy all the CARS since it puts the CFI derelict of 426.22 (5) (l) (l) decisions with respe...

Why does the PIC decide whether to take off? Does he get to overrule an instruction not to fly, from his supervisor, because he’s PIC? He can't (legally). But he is in the US, and his supervisor is in Canada, there is nothing stopping him from getting in the plane and going. In this example, you ca...

That’s possibly true. But one hopes that a PPL training plan that says “flight 22: night IFR cross country through cold front, for student experience” is going to get rejected. And if that flight wasn’t on the training plan then it shouldn’t have been done. That might not have been in there, but "i...

Don't fly if you're unfit to fly. It's that simple. What does that actually look like practically? How do you think an employer might respond to that? Will they just assume you're hung-over or irresponsible, because nobody else says "no"? There's always someone willing to push their limits, against...

That’s possibly true. But one hopes that a PPL training plan that says “flight 22: night IFR cross country through cold front, for student experience” is going to get rejected. And if that flight wasn’t on the training plan then it shouldn’t have been done. That might not have been in there, but "i...

There are many hidden treasures in the CARs if you know where to look: 421.62 Class 4 Supervision Requirement The holder of a Class 4 Flight Instructor Rating shall be under the supervision of the holder of a Class 1 or 2 Flight Instructor Rating, in the applicable category, and shall submit for re...

How about we answer each question with a question?

This instructor, while certainly partly at fault, was a kid. Who was the adult in the room? Euh... no... If you are an instructor you do not get to play the kid card, sorry. You are teaching other people who trust you with their life. They pay you to teach them how to fly. That (should) make you a ...

All of you except PF are ignoring the pressure to get that plane home. Don't tell me that pressure isn't there from an FTU. I happen to know for a fact, it is. No I'm not. Yes there is pressure. And a pilot/instructor should say no. He is the one who takes off in the end. You can't blame it all on ...

Regarding the instructor: he is PIC. He was responsible, at least, to make sure he had his currency requirements. In Photofly's example, he is not one of the kids playing with the gun, he was the parent. No. Once the cabin door was closed, and the aircraft first moved under its own power with the i...

Let's talk about greed then. Isn't it greedy for any flight school to operate these "experience" flights that aren't required nor in any syllabus-- especially irrelevant for pre ppl students. Greed certainly was a factor in the decision to push the weather to get the aircraft home. Flight schools w...

Gold diggers trying any avenue they can I think. What a lovely way to talk about a bereaved family. To answer your question, they will probably suggest a failure of oversight on the part of both governments. Can’t say I blame them. They can be bereaved and be gold diggers. It is probably their lawy...

So when does the PIC say shit this isn't right and either abort or push the throttles to the stops. To stagger along for 4 miles is absurd. Are they so bound by SOP's that they can't do this? What ever happened to feeling what the airplane is doing? Never flown that size of aircraft but I would thi...

Diversions without a map. Just have a student find his home airport by using everything he knows and coming up with a plan. Easier to do with an airport next to a big lake, and obviously not something to do on the first navigation exercise, but I think it is a nice twist. Or do airwork at a differen...

This self constructed situational awareness is extremely valuable. I have no doubt that you're correct. Can you think of any exercises that civilian student pilots could do to help build this awareness, aside from the planning and flying of one or two cross country sorties and a few diversionary ex...

I'd rather pay $100k for schooling, know I have a job and career for the next 40 years at a carrier like AF or Lufthansa than the shit system we have in Canada where everyone is so eager to step on everyones face to get ahead. You don't pay 100k and get a job. You pay 100k to enter the lottery of p...