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by Fanblade
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Thoughts on ACPA Joining ALPA...
Replies: 91
Views: 15025

Re: Thoughts on ACPA Joining ALPA...

The new language has proven to be very effective and the only scope grievance that ACPA has filed since 2011 resulted in a $650,000 award which was distributed to the pilots. The new scope language emanating from TA1 was destroyed during FOS. The company cherry picked the removal of key protections...
by Fanblade
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...
Replies: 337
Views: 35369

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

I agree that arbitrators don’t usually give large pay cuts or increases, which is why I don’t think Swoop rates will move that much from current levels. Guess we’ll see. If an arbitrator let Swoops wages stand? That would be rewarding WJ's attempt to circumnavigate the agreement they had with their...
by Fanblade
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...
Replies: 337
Views: 35369

Re: SWOOP OTS Captains punted from left seat...

With the wide body growth at mainline, Swoop wages likely arbitrated below mainline rates it won’t be long before there is enough movement that we can bid back for our positions using our new seniority number. Arbitrators in general don't hand out pay cuts. They also don't hand out much in the way ...
by Fanblade
Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Passenger rights advocate launches complaint against new low-cost airline
Replies: 17
Views: 2693

Re: Passenger rights advocate launches complaint against new low-cost airline

So the complaint is that Swoop doesn't have any all-inclusive fare class? It doesn't matter that you can add on baggage? The Max fare with Flair is more than you would pay for the base fare, a carry-on, and a checked bag if you added them all separately; you get seat selection too, but why would an...
by Fanblade
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Passenger rights advocate launches complaint against new low-cost airline
Replies: 17
Views: 2693

Re: Passenger rights advocate launches complaint against new low-cost airline

Diadem wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:41 pm
The CTA says the airlines have to accept the baggage if it's reasonable, not that they have to do it for free. Why didn't he file this complaint against Flair too?
The CTA says there needs to be a published fare inclusive of baggage.

Flair publishes a fare that includes baggage.
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60
Replies: 96
Views: 9407

Re: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60

Canada’s young adult underemployment reached 40% in 2015. That is 4 in 10 university grads. The highest it has ever been. This fact has been on the BoC radar for about 3 years now. It’s a problem if it persists. If it’s a blip not so much. Although like any complex situation there are always more th...
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:13 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60
Replies: 96
Views: 9407

Re: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60

But in your ideology that’s fine because the youth don’t have rights under the charter. Any expectations they had for equality are reduced, derided and chided as intolerant “entitlement”. If they persist they get painted with an ageism brush. I'm not ideological...I'm realistic. Those "youth" have ...
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60
Replies: 96
Views: 9407

Re: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60

Rockie, You are turning into an ideologue. Life is far too complex to be able to apply an ideology without common sense and consideration of the collateral damage. But this is what fanatical ideologues do anyway. Anything pointed out that can’t fit in the ideologues limited view of right and wrong ...
by Fanblade
Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60
Replies: 96
Views: 9407

Re: Disability Benefits For Pilots Over Age 60

It’s not a flattering look. Rockie, You are turning into an ideologue. Life is far too complex to be able to apply an ideology without common sense and consideration of the collateral damage. But this is what fanatical ideologues do anyway. Anything pointed out that can’t fit in the ideologues limi...
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:42 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Fanblade, it's not true in Canada. As evidenced plenty of other companies here have direct entry. As mentioned both sunwing and AT might have DEC soon. And Cargojet has done. For about the third time in this thread. There is absolutely nothing wrong with DEC so long as it was offered in house to an...
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

The queue rules are hardly universal and mostly only apply here in North America and some Legacy airlines depending on availability (Qantas were hiring DEC as in 2008-09). We are not talking about the universe. We are talking about the rules here in Canada. In Canada you have labor laws to deal wit...
by Fanblade
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:15 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

So the question remains. Since we are talking about morals and the high and mighty attitude of Westjet pilots, most that have never worked anywhere else before except for a single piston. If Westjet went bankrupt tomorrow, and another airline offered WJ captains DEC bypassing many qualified FO's. W...
by Fanblade
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

I am not condoning or condemning anyone who chose to go to Swoop. I do however like to try to see both sides of the coin so I will offer this up.... If WJ were to fold tomorrow, and AC offered DEC spots to former WJ captains, how many would reject the offer because they didn’t want to jump the line...
by Fanblade
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: The End of the WPDL Confirmed
Replies: 128
Views: 20306

Re: The End of the WPDL Confirmed

Confirmed?

How about some substance to your claim.
by Fanblade
Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Makes one happy to have never worked at WJ. You all do seem like a miserable uptight hateful bunch. Hmmm...... What I see is a bunch of victims reacting as expected considering the situation. I also see a bunch of perpetrators attempting to paint themselves as victims. If only the world was so simp...
by Fanblade
Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

eyebrow737 wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Makes one happy to have never worked at WJ. You all do seem like a miserable uptight hateful bunch.
Hmmm......

What I see is a bunch of victims reacting as expected considering the situation.

I also see a bunch of perpetrators attempting to paint themselves as victims.
by Fanblade
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Yes but unfortunately I imagine that the company will get what they wanted too....Swoop flying for lower than mainline wages I have never heard of arbitrators giving out pay cuts. However your current contract, minus any gains you might make now, or have already agreed to, probably wouldn’t be cons...
by Fanblade
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Good points, college of pilots would be a great achievement. There's an earnest attempt at this already. It hasn't caught fire yet but it should. Check it out: https://www.collegeofpilots.ca/ Do you mean the organization that just appointed a fatigue denier to the board?? The one that lost all cred...
by Fanblade
Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:25 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

As if the morale at Encore could go any lower... here it is Yes Encore pilots are the biggest losers in all of this. Really? The only thing released was an interm order. It’s objective is only to keep the place operating until the real outcome is determined. It will all come out in the wash. Labor ...
by Fanblade
Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Generally speaking a seniority system is not good for skilled workers, like doctors, lawyers, etc. It prevents them from moving and naturally going to higher paying jobs. Doctors and lawyers negotiate their own rates with firms which is predicated on their experience and needs of the firm if it be ...
by Fanblade
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

A national list would be utopia. Not very realistic though. You will never get buy in from the corporations that would see costs go up as a result. They like the locked in aspect of a seniority system. They don’t want to compete for you. They want you competing for them. The best you can do is get a...
by Fanblade
Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:39 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Canadians pilots have some of the worst pay, benefits, vacations, duty and fatigue standards in the western world (not to say third world) Isn't it time to look at the way we do things and try something different? Don't tell me that alpa is trying to do something different. They are doing the same ...
by Fanblade
Sun May 27, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 519
Views: 67891

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

Arbitrators don’t move very much from status quo. What they don’t do is hand out pay cuts. They don’t create winners and losers. First contracts are usually just your current working conditions in writing plus a grievance procedure. Keep in mind the arbitrator is only dealing with a dispute between ...
by Fanblade
Sun May 27, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Gloom & Doom Q2 outlook...are you kidding?
Replies: 172
Views: 29456

Re: Gloom & Doom Q2 outlook...are you kidding?

Fanblade wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:33 am


IOW the most likely outcome is status quo and inflation raises, except for areas the two sides come to an agreement on.
by Fanblade
Sun May 27, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Gloom & Doom Q2 outlook...are you kidding?
Replies: 172
Views: 29456

Re: Gloom & Doom Q2 outlook...are you kidding?

Did you guys manage to get the flying at par for mainline wages? No? Yes. To my understanding, as has been reiterated by Drop Tanks and tbaylx, WAWCON still undecided. Considering you are going to have a leg chopped out via mediation, that means Swoop flying is likely not going to be done at WS mai...

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