I work at AC, I am on a 4x4 sched. 4 days on then 4 days off. I have been doing this for over 20 years, I do not think I could go back to a Monday to Friday routine. I truly enjoy my 4 days off

Rockie, What we don't need are pilots claiming that they know how to run an airline. The days of MacGregor and McConachie are gone. Fact is that AC had $600M in the bank in 2009 and now has $2.2B. Our costs have been slashed yet I am making more money today than I was then even though I haven't mov...

Vote with your feet, Doc! This company could care less if you quit, I quit, we all quit, there is plenty of work around for both of our groups. The Office Monkeys can Fly and Fix the Airplanes. Unfortunately at 51 I am a whore to my pension, but had i been late 30's or early 40, it would be the big...

I hope you all take a couple minutes to read the 17 page report, piche says a couple times that the decision is based on the limitations of the bill and not normal for this type of arbitrator. He mentions that usualy the ability to pay is not a concideration, however it is in this case. The arbitra...

TheSuit wrote:This problem has been solved by every other major specialized profession for decades, pilots just can't seem to get it figured out though....

Nor can suits

Legacy wrote:Can someone find where ogopgo lives and beat his ass senseless please?

Corporate headquarters Dorval Quebec skimming from the trough like the rest of the execs and upper management

The historical issues aside I would say yes. Both the IAM and ACPA have made it abundantly clear to everyone that they believe the present process illegal. They have both challenged the B2W legislation in court. They will likely both launch injunctions when they feel the timing is best attempting t...

Air Canada is getting far behind with Westjet wages for licensed mechanics Westjet AME makes 39.47 and by 2016 it will be 43.11 http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8154 AC AME is just over 32.00 an hour http://iam140.ca/userfiles/file/Collective%20agreements/AirCanada_anglais.pdf An...

I could have posted this on any of the last threads durind the previous 6 months but here goes You people, pilots in particular, are the upmost pathetic group of human beings that ever walked upon this part of North America. To think that you will even get 50% of what you hope for is a pipe dream, ...

Do you really believe that? It's easy to say that after the fact.....but a plan as large and as ambitious as that? No way....it was going to be done with or without employee assent!! Regardless, West Jet does take care of its employees and it is reflected in the way they do business. This is a comp...

Again just a guess, but I think Duncan saw the headlight of the CCAA V2.0 express coming down the tracks and decided to step off before it was too late.
He is very well connected in Ottawa and will likely land in some federal government position

Inverted2 wrote:Don't even think about striking! I have ze back to work papers ready!

hmmmmmmmmmmm!

confuzed wrote:Wow, she really looks like a guy.....or it could be the other way around I guess, dude looks like a lady.

Pinky Tuscadaro is alive and well, where is the Fonz when you need him

Don't even think about striking! I have ze back to work papers ready! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/politicalbytes/raitt-w-7498041.jpg Would you - not I, even with a bottle of Old Sam in me. I don't have a grudge against my co@k........... :drinkers: :drinkers: :weedman: There is not enough rum in ...

The Airline Pilot is the most skilled and highly trained of all the groups involved (Management, Government). This is called narcissistic personality disorder. Get help, you'll be a lot happier once you realize that you too, are a human being. Takes a lot more than balls. What it takes are leaders ...

As part of the settlement we make the Government agree that there will be no fines or reprisals. All it take is balls. Takes a lot more than balls. What it takes are leaders who are prepared to go to jail and a membership thats willing to back them up when push comes to shove. Neither of which exis...

They are not interested in negotiating, they are interested in bullying and taking from the employee groups by any means necessary. 400+ Canadians out of a job today here in London because a company that makes billions in profit a year wanted workers to take a 50% paycut. They were never even inter...

vic777 wrote:

DrBoeing wrote: Now if the 2 groups go out, Raitt will legislate us back, but if we refuse, then what?

After the Government agrees that there will be no retribution, we return with a nice pay raise.

Exactly!

On a semi serious note, are you guys sure you want to come back to this gong show ? I'm thinking a guy named Madoff in an orange jumpsuit is running this place. You may have a point there. It's looking more and more like our benevolent employer want to put us all on the street for good regardless o...

This was the game plan from the instant Lisa Raitt stated she would legislate the sale agents back to work! AC management knew they had a constant ACE in the hole. They can now drag their feet and in the end let the government impose a contract. What the unions need to do is band together and challe...

[/quote] Certainly don't have a crystal ball, but the pension deficit will likely be addressed as that is a common concern. Both groups would love to see the airline grow and prosper, but don't expect the pilots to take wage concessions under the delusion that it is their salaries prohibiting the ai...

Mig29 wrote:In simple terms: someone burnt the cookies in the back!

I wish I was kidding

NOT THE CHOCOLATE CHIP ones!!!!!

About time they publicly recognize their need to change the corporate culture - like you guys said with the execs, I believe the company culture at AC has been a big draft for negativity since way back when the whole Canadian/AC ordeal happened. A corporate culture change cannot start at the bottom...

ratherbee - at least give them a chance. Unless you are truly happy earning less money than 12 years ago and are willing to fly a Widebody / Heavy Jet, for embarrassingly low wages with obscene working conditions? All the while every other (unskilled) employee around this nuthouse marches ahead. Ri...

I'm to lazy to read all the topics on this crap. So basically any AC pilot can fly till they die.. Am I correct on this? If so, wow. Those that do must be realllly financially messed up. I am all for retiring at 65, just like every other airline in the world pretty much. I don't care if you take as...