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Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:51 pm

In theory, what has been published plans out to summer 2022. If that holds, there shouldn’t be anymore. But we are in strange times.

The bid showed 795 surplus pilots so there could be more furloughs after September.

LOU 83, however, having had to look it up I see its not going to offer any protection because one of the clauses voiding its protection are blocks under 57 hours...and it ended in 2017. Sorry if I got your hopes up.

Air Canada has announced lay offs for up to 60% of its workforce. Having a surplus of around 800 out of 4500 on property shows that the airline is going to be very heavy on pilots for the foreseeable future. It's inaccurate to suggest that pilots who have avoided furlough aren't going to feel massiv...

I was just trying to add a bit of context to an accident that was referenced to show how there can be a number of contributing factors. 777 and 787 manuals have been significantly revised since the accidents in SFO and DXB. I agree with your comments and have been trying to avoid commenting on the P...

In March ACPA and AC negotiated a 6 month (April - September) MOA that reduced all pilots to 55 hours in exchange limited furloughs to no more than 600 prior to the end of September. The 162 Pilots hired in 2020 were furloughed along with 16,500 AC employees. At the same time the Government announce...

Emirates did it in a GA by not re arming the AT, in a 777 I think. The Emirates accident was actually an interesting case study that exposed holes in the proverbial Swiss cheese model relating to SOP's, training and aircraft systems. The crew attempted to abort the landing and activated the go-arou...

Braun, thanks for your contribution to the forum and aviation safety. What is really being discussed is the ever growing rift between those who work in the private sector and the public. The gap between job security and pay has growing for a while and the COVID epidemic amplified the former. The fin...

The problem is that even a massive government handout doesn't bring anyone back to work in June. People aren't flying, if traffic volumes were half of what they were last summer I would be shocked. Airlines are looking at restructuring with a time frame of late Q4 to Q3 of 2021. Government assistanc...

Any idea what impact this latest announcement will have on pilot furlough numbers post September? 600 Pilots can be furloughed prior to the end of September, the remaining 195 surplus after that, if in fact they are still surplus at that time. Flight Operations likely has been evaluating the airlin...

It appears AC and Delta Airlines are reaching similar projections. Delta had 14,600 Pilots when the pandemic started and Air Canada had 4500. 3,500 Pilots represents roughly 24% of Delta's pre-pandemic pilot group which at AC would be 1100 pilots. A reduction, which is nearly identical to the 3400 p...

AC is in part a victim of its own success. Over a decade, CR created and implemented a business plan that doubled revenues. The majority of that revenue growth was derived from international expansion. The WB fleet and utilization expanded dramatically. The NB fleet was expanded to feed greater num...

I always thought of YVR as one of the better located airports with water on one end and a boggy river delta making up most of the surrounding landmass to the east. With the continued population growth in the valley YXX could become a useful low cost secondary airport for LCC travel akin to London Ga...

Air Canada is in as good of financial shape to weather this storm as it's ever been and is sitting on the same sized pile of cash that Delta is. Due to the grounding of the MAX last year most of the narrow body fleet are operating on short term leases or are owned.

The CEWS bought the airline time, the surplus pilots that will be shown on the bid don't cost anything until the government stops picking up the tab. The longer they wait the better economic picture they will have.

As someone said, "The cure is worse than the disease". ALL CAPS. The POTUS tweeted on March 22nd. Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO! 323K 11:50 PM - Mar 2...

How is Air Canada encouraging social distancing on board? A few ways. First, on flights where possible, our gate agents will be proactively reseating customers in our Economy cabin, to have as few people sitting next to one another as possible. Please note that passengers on the same booking will n...

Due to the CEWS no AC pilot is currently furloughed, the first 162 will be laid off on June 6th (or later if the program is extended). At the start of the year AC projected a requirement for over 5000 pilots to crew the airline into next spring. The MOA restricts layoffs to no more than 600 until Se...

That's not correct. Check the latest MEC update WRT the first grouping of ERIP eligible pilots. Just under 60 opted in out of just over 70 in that group, the rest have until next Tuesday to make their decision. The airline negotiated to layoff up to 600 pilots, and even with 500 pilots taking early ...

The questions that no one can answer yet is what is the air travel market going to look like in 2 months, 6 months or a year from now. Given how quickly things fell to pieces in mid-March its pretty amazing how rapidly airlines adjusted their capacity for April. The global passenger air travel indus...

Sorry to hear about all those hired this year being furloughed, I've always enjoyed reading the biographies and I can imagine how crushing it was to get that phone call. Hope to see you guys and gals all back soon. I'm curious to hear what some of those who now are contemplating retirement think of ...

More people Died in 2009 of swine flu than have been infected with covid . They never shut one airport due to that pandemic of flu in 2009 , not one train station , not one bus depot. Hopefully the panic will end soon and we can get back to our normal acceptance of people dying as part of life. Of ...

There was a whistle blower a few months back discussing the fact Boeing laid off all the senior programmers in favour of outsourcing the work to India for cheaper. Sounds to me Boeing has the same cultural issue as the rest of North America .. Savings over Safety. The software functioned exactly as...

There was a whistle blower a few months back discussing the fact Boeing laid off all the senior programmers in favour of outsourcing the work to India for cheaper. Sounds to me Boeing has the same cultural issue as the rest of North America .. Savings over Safety. The software functioned exactly as...

Didn’t a new FO bring up the flat pay to Calin at a roadshow or meet n’ greet and he basically told him if he didn’t like it he should quit? It was a mid-seniority Captain, and the response was go apply to Emirates. Lol. Calin has a lot of respect for his pilots, doesn't he? That's a classless resp...

I guess I'm in the minority here but I find that lack of experience in aviation to be a concern. the issue seem to be that we use hours to measure experience and they don't go hand in hand as we all know that hours in one type of operation don't always translate into manful experience for another. I...