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- Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:35 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Career outlook Starting @30
- Replies: 27
- Views: 6792
Re: Outlook Career Starting @30
Pre COVID-19... First job flying a small turboprop (PC12, C208, King Air etc..) as an FO. Expect to earn 25-30k a year. After a year or two if you are lucky a promotion to captain building PIC time earning 45-60k a year. Expect another year or two in this position. 1500 hours later you may have the ...
- Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:46 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Is the 4 year flat pay worth it?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 11762
Re: Is the 4 year flat pay worth it?
Grossed 113k my first year with a little.help from my Jazz FIP. My AC T4 indicated just under 100k. Subsequent years on flat pay were all over 100k with overtime(15-20k of per diems on top of that)... Once off flat pay as an FO you can expect 140k (A320) to 210k (777) and everything in between.. Upg...
- Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:38 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Coronavirus Numbers
- Replies: 377
- Views: 63388
Re: Coronavirus Numbers
It’s such stupid, heartless logic.
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Logic nonetheless! Certainly more logical than hoarding toilette paper.
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Logic nonetheless! Certainly more logical than hoarding toilette paper.
- Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:13 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Hiring on track?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8155
Re: Hiring on track?
4 classes so far: Jan 06: 36 Jan 27: 39 Feb 17: 48 Mar 02: 40 approx (still underway no information yet) Another large class will commence at the end of March. Last equipment bid indicated 936 vacancies however this bid was cancelled so that number may decrease/increase depending on what is happenin...
- Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:05 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: The Air Canada OTS thread
- Replies: 2309
- Views: 807459
Re: The Air Canada OTS thread
Hello ! Maybe I did not phrase my query clearly . Does the posting of over 900 slots in the recent Bid mean that there are that many unmanned Pilot positions across all fleets & ranks at AC ? Or that many new hirees required till the time factored in the plan which could be 12-24 months . The time ...
- Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:56 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Air Canada Pay
- Replies: 76
- Views: 23288
Re: Air Canada Pay
*Deep Facepalm* Is this the common belief at Air Canada? Why is the ONLY legacy carrier in Canada putting all the onus on the rest of the industry to set the bar??? You guys are apparently "the best", so prove it and stop apologizing for all your bull and dragging down the starting wages in the ind...
- Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:00 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Air Canada Pay
- Replies: 76
- Views: 23288
Re: Air Canada Pay
Wages need to increase everywhere else (WJ, SW, Swoop, Flair) for these numbers to ever have a chance at reaching industry standard. *Deep Facepalm* Is this the common belief at Air Canada? Why is the ONLY legacy carrier in Canada putting all the onus on the rest of the industry to set the bar??? Y...
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:08 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Air Canada Pay
- Replies: 76
- Views: 23288
Re: Air Canada Pay
Year 1 60.06 Year 2 65.67 Year 3 74.84 Year 4 83.80 All subject to 2% increase annually. Yes pretty terrible however bonuses for new hires under 4 years averaging around 8,000. With a bit of overtime very easy to get to $100k your first few years. Year 5 depending on your equipment it can range from...
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:44 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Who will bid the A220?
- Replies: 65
- Views: 20518
Re: Who will bid the A220?
Altiplano how do you explain the 8 737 new hire spots for mid-july? Also how is this possible given the lists on the 737 are full on the last bid? Can they assign new hires to positions not even available for those on the property to bid on? They sure can. Happened last year with the 767RP position.
- Mon May 20, 2019 6:39 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: AC offer AT $13 per share
- Replies: 160
- Views: 30792
Re: AC offer AT $13 per share
Hmm, so you should be rewarded for lowering the industry standard for years at Transat? And benefit for others hard work and progress? You my friend are what is wrong with the industry. Enjoy your new seniority number and your new job. Danield, there is no need to be condescending when you are one ...
- Mon May 20, 2019 5:31 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: AC offer AT $13 per share
- Replies: 160
- Views: 30792
Re: AC offer AT $13 per share
It amazes me at how some here are dismissive of the facts, and will skew them to their own (un)favourable view. You're either dense, a troll, or chicken little reincarnate (I assume he died when the sky fell). So as my final post on this matter, let me spin it for you naysayers to the view you want...
- Sun May 19, 2019 8:09 pm
- Forum: Air Transat
- Topic: DOH merge.
- Replies: 552
- Views: 90063
Re: DOH merge.
I fail to see how this can be a bad thing for the AC pilot group at all, even if DOH were to be implemented. Adding more planes from a company that runs skeleton crews, no relief pilots and rarely augmented flights. As far as I know we're getting the new 321's but have the option for many more. I s...
- Sun May 19, 2019 7:54 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: AC offer AT $13 per share
- Replies: 160
- Views: 30792
Re: AC offer AT $13 per share
Really BOTL. Comfort in knowing pay won’t be hurt??? There’s way more to life than pay. Vacation schedule, monthly schedule are just 2 I can think of that that would be horrible going from a senior Capt go a BOTL FO Their airplane got sold. No it didn’t. AC had to buy Transat before Onex did and me...
- Thu May 16, 2019 3:39 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: AC offer AT $13 per share
- Replies: 160
- Views: 30792
Re: AC offer AT $13 per share
It would be minimal for everybody hired at AC pre 2016. Everybody after will have 500 people slide ahead. Many who had to bite the bullet and go make penny’s at express to get to ac. So they should just slide in? The people who quit express to go to transat come out ahead, the ones who left transat...
- Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:10 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: What's the oldest age one should consider AC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 10167
Re: What's the oldest age one should consider AC
50!???!!? Damn man. I am just under thirty and thinking of not going, not for my age but for the seniority I will have. AC has hired massive amounts in the last three years, times are good, real good. Bad times follow good times. Everyone seems to forget this is a cyclical industry. I dont know may...
- Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:10 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: What's the oldest age one should consider AC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 10167
Re: What's the oldest age one should consider AC
My response would be age 50. 10-15 years gives you enough time to retire in the top half of a NB CA or WB FO list with somewhat of a pension at 65. 4 years to 200k on WB FO or 2-3 years to junior NB CA at 220k. Or you can remain senior NB FO and still make 120k+ after 4 years. Take home on flat pay ...
- Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:24 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Career First Officer at AC by design?
- Replies: 89
- Views: 28020
Re: Career First Officer at AC by design?
This is what every pilot who bid the 777 F/O, while in flat pay, needs to have a good long look at.....because you will be making nowhere near that, enjoy chatting with the crew about there boats and Porsche's while you hope they cover the bus tip on arrival.......thats a $200K seat that you just o...
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:52 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Career First Officer at AC by design?
- Replies: 89
- Views: 28020
Re: Career First Officer at AC by design?
Not to mention a Southwest newhire makes more than a 5 year pilot at AC and works fewer hours. Pathetic. As is that pay stub above. An American 787 FO makes 350.000 US ~(464.000CAD) and has more time off and better working condiotions. This is impossible. New hire Sun Wing pilots make $150-200k per...
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:33 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Career First Officer at AC by design?
- Replies: 89
- Views: 28020
Re: Career First Officer at AC by design?
This is a typical 12 year pay B777 pay stub. Some B777 FOs are slightly higher because they are on "grandfathered" pay from the previous contract. This year end stub reflects a November YYZ-HKG overtime trip and another OT trip earlier in the year. Those that do a lot of overtime can make a lot mor...