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by Impact
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:12 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 24344

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Impact reminds me of the guy who sends asinine emails to his reps, constantly harassing them thinking that they get a month of flight relief and do nothing. Then they get a call from the CP that they're OPI (off pending investigation) and all of a sudden they're the rep's best friend. If you don't ...
by Impact
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 24344

Re: A "NEW" One List?

I don't pay 2% of my salary for some ALPA rep to blow sunshine up my a** about the "resources" they have at their disposal, and now try to guilt me into feeling sorry for them for having do their job. Working 14-20 hours a day? That one made me chuckle. :lol: If you felt bede was trying to make you...
by Impact
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 24344

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The company sees opportunity in this crisis. Their bargaining positioning was on the lines of: 1. Gutting scope, larger Jets at Encore; 2. ESP removed until their discretion; 3. Compensation reductions; 4. Layoff pay concessions; 5. Recall out of seniority. That's grossly exaggerated. We keep heari...
by Impact
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9753

Re: MOA2

DirtyDashDriver, I have to disagree. What we see now is a situation where instead of ripping off the bandage and suturing the wound, some people want to keep piling on the bandaids with new terms/conditions/negotiations. It becomes untenable. Why these people want to do that, I'm unsure. I do howeve...
by Impact
Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9753

Re: MOA2

George, as much as I agree with you, the concept of "unintentional consequences" doesn't apply in this case. One could absolutely see where this was heading. There were some of us that were screaming that the one list wouldn't work. You need to ask yourselves, through honest self reflection, why you...
by Impact
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:49 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9753

Re: MOA2

Well, to all those who pushed for and supported the one list concept, I hate to say "I told you so", but.......
by Impact
Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59201

Re: One List

Well if you vote this down, any money that would have been spent at mainline (read option value) will get sent to Encore instead. What a nice gift for the Encore pilots... I knew you OTS guys were really a bunch of softies concerned for the well being of others! Oh yes, them "OTS" guys! You forget ...
by Impact
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59201

Re: One List

Never was a supporter of the "one list" concept in which one carries their WJE DOH to mainline. It wasn't industry standard, and was bound to implode eventually. Was a strong supporter of "flow" however. Nothing personal against Encore pilots, but expecting to bypass OTS hires at a mainline is not ...
by Impact
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59201

Re: One List

Never was a supporter of the "one list" concept in which one carries their WJE DOH to mainline. It wasn't industry standard, and was bound to implode eventually. Was a strong supporter of "flow" however. Nothing personal against Encore pilots, but expecting to bypass OTS hires at a mainline is not on.
by Impact
Thu May 16, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Air Transat
Topic: DOH merge.
Replies: 552
Views: 66095

Re: DOH merge.

Duke has an extremely valid point.

DOH with fences is the only rational way to go.
by Impact
Wed May 15, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46552

Re: One list

For the 400 of you that did not vote... shame on you. You are almost worse than the people who voted to dispel this LOU. We know it didn’t affect you that much but it affected all the time we put into Encore waiting to join you on the other side. Are you suggesting that I do not have the right to n...
by Impact
Wed May 15, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: BETRAYAL!
Replies: 38
Views: 12226

Re: BETRAYAL!

Was never a supporter of the one list as it was structured. Tell that to the 500+ Encore pilots who agreed to work under those terms, and whom are now SOL! .... I have in the past, and I'll continue to do so in the future. But let's face it, the way the one list was structured was an absolutely unp...
by Impact
Tue May 14, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: BETRAYAL!
Replies: 38
Views: 12226

Re: BETRAYAL!

KAG wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 7:43 pm .... You go to AC from either company its BOTL.
Which is the industry standard. Had that industry standard been followed here, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

There are indeed lessons to be learned from the AC/Air Ontario debacle.
by Impact
Tue May 14, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: BETRAYAL!
Replies: 38
Views: 12226

Re: BETRAYAL!

Mr North,

I don't look upon this as a betrayal, I look upon it as finding its normal equilibrium.

Was always a strong supporter of flow. Was a supporter of the one list as long as Encore pilots went BOTL upon arriving at mainline. Was never a supporter of the one list as it was structured.
by Impact
Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

digits, I invite you to go back and re-read my posts. There you'll find that I'm not focusing solely on appearance. For some reason, you think I am. So what pay (specific $ value) did you personally think would provide enough incentive for a person to start acting professionally? You mentioned Jazz ...
by Impact
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

mbav8r wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:01 pm That assumes the corporation you are defending has acted with integrity, which could easily be argued they have not.
.....and it could be easily argued that they have.

But then again, that argument is for the WJ page, isn't it?
by Impact
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

mbav8r, I'm fairly sure what your opinion is on the matter. Read the second last sentence of that last quote again. "I work for WJ, not ALPA" That should tell you something. The company hired me to do a job, and they pay me fairly for doing so. They have not treated me poorly (as a matter of fact, I...
by Impact
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

I'd even go so far as to say that having the attitude of "pay me more, and then I'll start acting professionally" is an indicator that they're not only unprofessional, but have very little concept of what the word means (and most probably never will). I think you might not fully understand what it ...
by Impact
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

Infiniteregulus and rudder, spot on. I'd even go so far as to say that having the attitude of "pay me more, and then I'll start acting professionally" is an indicator that they're not only unprofessional, but have very little concept of what the word means (and most probably never will). Which bring...
by Impact
Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Professionalism
Replies: 98
Views: 11815

Re: Professionalism

Salary has nothing to do with acting professionally, and having a professional attitude. Appearance is only a (small?) part of that equation.

How you act and carry yourself, even after a 12-13 hr day, is part of what defines you as a professional.

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