When’s the last time wings have fallen off any airplane? That has nothing to do with the fact that hiring low time pilots increases training costs with higher failure rates, increased fuel burns due to unstable approaches because they don’t know how to slow down a jet? It’s a different world above ...

Terrifying Terrifying that they had only instructor time back when we hired them, or that they now have over 2000 hours on the 737 and no wings have fallen off in that time? When’s the last time wings have fallen off any airplane? That has nothing to do with the fact that hiring low time pilots inc...

Does flair ever hire 1000 hour instructors for example? What are the chances someone with that experience gets any consideration? Thanks! We have hired several pilots with around 1000 TT, however we prefer at least some of that experience to be operational 703/704 time. It is unlikely that a candid...

redlaser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:54 pm and Ukraine belongs to Russia

Since when? Please cite international law.

And what did they do to the working conditions? I don't know, but it's also irrelevant since I was responding to your argument which was entirely predicated on pay, and pay is a much more objective measure than "working conditions." No it's not. Working conditions are quantified during contract neg...

Regarding point 1), your argument is not valid because your implicit assumption that management will NOT increase pay to match industry is not true. Case in point, Porter increased pay to match what they felt was the industry standard for that type of aircraft. And what did they do to the working c...

An non-unionized company can increase pay to match the industry as new agreements come into play at other airlines. In a union, any changes must be negotiated with and approved by the MEC. As a result, you can expect a you-vs-me atmosphere to develop. So this argument is exactly why a union is nece...

Strange situation. Massive shortage of narrowbodies world-wide. A lessor eager to repossess (and I assume to redeploy and continue to earn revenue). Then the planes sit on the ground for a whole year.

I just completed my 787 training. You need approximately 8 yrs and 10 months seniority to hold a B787 F/O position. Lowest 737 Captain awarded on last bid will have 9 yrs 1 month seniority. As others have stated if more planes come upgrades will be quicker. Wait… did I just read this correctly? Bas...

I'll give you that the past of some of 777 partners is.. Less than desirable as reported in some articles if true. However I haven't personally verified this info myself so I can't speak to it. What I can say is that Flair doesn't buy its aircraft, so right there the onemileatatime article is not r...

I don’t think they were suggesting someone gets to bring their date of of hire along with them to any airline they wish to join, but rather one would be financially compensated for their experience level while still sliding in at the bottom of the list. Yes, I very clearly said for pay, but as soon...

I suppose all is possible. However, with Sunwing now no longer an independent competitor, and with the imminent demise of Flair, the competitive landscape has changed a lot in a short time. A WJ-AT consolidation will be viewed much more skeptically by the competition bureau especially given that the...

Fair enough. Regardless, still not assets. Since you insist on being nitpicky, I'll be nitpicky on your claim. Capital leases are no longer off-balance-sheet items. Under GAAP and IFRS, these leases have to now be reported on financial statements as debt and assets. A leased aircraft very much cons...

All airlines have spares sitting around. You’d be crazy not to have a spare aircraft on a regular day of work. I don’t think these spares were sitting for weeks or months not being utilized. Just part of the rotation. Now flair doesn’t have spares, or very few of them left. And I doubt flair owned ...

Calling on all pilots but especially ALPA Pilots to contact your reps and petition to get Flair pilots DOH for pay at any ALPA carrier that hires them during this period of uncertainty. Consider the precedent that would set. In future, it could allow pilots to work at the airline that offers them t...

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It’s not that hard…

Launchpad1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:56 am Maybe Bombardier will be able to buy back the A220 for a $

Funny enough, Bombardier was extremely fortunate to have sold off their airliner divisions when they did. Can you imagine having to go through that in this climate?!

We are beating a dead horse arguing over the broken telephone that is the media. Either way, yes, actual cash burn rates are likely somewhere in the single digit millions per day.

tailgunner wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:13 pm WJ was burning 25000000$ a day. His statement not mine.

No. That’s the media’s statement, not his. And boy have the media gotten it wrong over the years. I’m not arguing with the media. I’m arguing against basing one’s hypotheses on clear misrepresentations which are easy to fact-check.

Brooks, Sims is on record saying that WJ was burning 22 000 000 a day as well. Interesting "facts". Here is a fact backed by actual math. WJ revenue 2018 (last full year available before going private) was $4.7bil. Divide that by 365 = $13mil a day...and that's revenue not cost, and at full operati...

RippleRock, the flaw in your thinking is that it's based on self-righteousness. You value a socialist system when it comes to a pilot wage standard, but despise it when it comes to taxation ("socialist Liberal handout"). You can't hold these two opposing ideas simultaneously except if by doing so, y...

I don't think you quite understand the concept of diversification. Hehe, of course I don’t as long as understanding what is a fairly commonsensical economic strategy goes against your narrative. :goodman: 2 days later... I wonder if your opinions on diversification are any different? How's that "co...

Yes turkey, everyone is affected. It’s just a matter of some being more exposed than others. Cancelling one destination such as Rome hardly compares to cancelling all flying to China and Italy. The leisure travel you blabber on about is an exposure for both WJ and Rouge. But the global traffic slow...

Diverse compared to an operator that barely touches any of the heavily affected regions? I don’t see your logic. If WestJet’s sole order of business was flying to China or Italy etc., then yes diversity would be a relative asset for AC. As it stands however, that’s not the case. Furthermore, with t...