I don’t see your point? Success is measured in more than what job you’re doing? You can have your dream job to be a terrible person (Joe) The point is.....Joe may be a character but he offered a great opportunity to someone willing to do the job(instead of complaining about it) and now does exactly...

"Why don't we get what US pilots get?" :? (Proceeds to trash the people trying to get them US wages.) :roll: Oh come on bede… And how are they doing on that front? Had the most favorable negotiation environment we will ever see and folded like an origami chicken before they even turned up the heat....

Do you really have a choice at this point? I'm not sure, I feel it might make sense to "wait it out" at my day job, so I can at least keep current and flying occasionally. The best time to get your foot in the door in aviation was yesterday. The second best time is today.. Shit or get off the pot.

PittBoss wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2026 2:11 am It's high time now. We need Upgrade. We need Upgrade.

You wanted him, you got him

Yes the pay calculator gives you gross. For Air Canada there is a net calculator/province specific and pension estimator if you sign up as Air Canada pilot. All pay info is there as well, I just ask the AI assistant to calculate the pay per year/position across airlines, usually quite good. Overall...

Exactive22 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2026 10:52 pm There's one here as well, together with the collective agreements, pension/career estimator for AC:
https://airlinecontract.com/

Cheers

This is pre-tax estimate and not taking union dues and pension into the calculation, correct?

I wasn’t necessarily directing that at you, a general comment on blaming others for their woes. Like in your example GenX started their career in the early 90s recession and then lived through Sept 2001, the 2008, Covid… what’s next for our careers. My problem is that the most current generation is...

3 out of 8 were NB CA so not extremely “junior”. Doubt 3 would have been in the situation that to save face they were given the option to “resign.”

It would seem only the bottom 2 would be so junior that they would still be on probation.

So 6 out 8 would have been safely out of probation.

Yeah, the state of Canada and Canadians taxes are bullshit and we need to be paid even more to make up for it. Thank the real boomers for that one, and honestly you fucking children that keep voting for socialists and digging us deeper. You’re not entirely wrong but all the younger generations are ...

You guys are fucking idiots. I'm not saying that AC is all that. And Emirates sure isn't either. Yeah, AC wages and terms have a long way to go after the real boomers fucked them so bad for 20 years. Yeah, the state of Canada and Canadians taxes are bullshit and we need to be paid even more to make...

PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:56 am Well, that guy won't be doing line indoc anymore.

Rumour mill saying he’s been shown the door.

Unpaid work media stunt? The PR move was well played as it got huge public support but seems like everyone has lost the forest for the trees. The real issue is making less than minimum wage. Unpaid work really is just a symptom of making less than minimum wage. Pilots are paid the same system with “...

Moral is at an all time low. The crews are getting worked like dogs in a never ending grind and then on top of that the tiny perks that used to exist are being stripped away by the penny pinching. Crews being told they can’t expense Ubers to go get food. Sorry but you got to walk no matter what the...

Moral is at an all time low. The crews are getting worked like dogs in a never ending grind and then on top of that the tiny perks that used to exist are being stripped away by the penny pinching. Crews being told they can’t expense Ubers to go get food. Sorry but you got to walk no matter what the...

Moral is at an all time low. The crews are getting worked like dogs in a never ending grind and then on top of that the tiny perks that used to exist are being stripped away by the penny pinching. Crews being told they can’t expense Ubers to go get food. Sorry but you got to walk no matter what the...

Moral is at an all time low. The crews are getting worked like dogs in a never ending grind and then on top of that the tiny perks that used to exist are being stripped away by the penny pinching. Crews being told they can’t expense Ubers to go get food. Sorry but you got to walk no matter what the ...

AC has sim evals? No way

So the NHL is a now a starter gig?..

I’m a junior on flat pay. I I have no life outside of work as I literally can’t afford to do jackshit. I literally am wondering how I’m gonna feed myself on pairings coming up and worry about gas to get to and from the airport. I pick up VO and seat fills on as many days off as I can. Do I want to ...

I’m a junior on flat pay. I I have no life outside of work as I literally can’t afford to do jackshit. I literally am wondering how I’m gonna feed myself on pairings coming up and worry about gas to get to and from the airport. I pick up VO and seat fills on as many days off as I can. Do I want to ...

AC pay and pay system is the most Fd up compensation system I have ever experienced in my career… Yeah why is like that? My PIT started near the end of the month and I didn't receive any payment until like 6 weeks later. Make sure you have enough saved for rent for the first couple of months or you...

If I said screw the bottom wages, give everything to year 12 then your statement would be correct. But hey guess what, lifestyle also applies to the new hire! Having a schedule that fits with an actual life outside of work doesn't just apply to the senior 15%. For example, training inside of your b...

Forget the starting pay, 2027 needs to be all about lifestyle. When the number 2 NB FO gets optimized working max days in the month and thunder bay overnights something is seriously wrong with this company. Socialized bidding but the company gets the socializing aspect. Classic pilot behaviour. For...

:idea: That’s called complacency. People usually toss the books on the shelf until it’s time again to look it up. And 1st recurrent has way less sims than initial so people can’t get it back in time. 1st recurrent has the most amount of failures You mentioned it well. As pilots we should always be ...

:idea: I dont know if its specific to my fleet or not but there's a high number of guys are apparently failing their 1st recurrent PPC after their initial . Most likely due to training fatigue. Unfortunately, failing a ride is pretty much a guaranteed probation extension at AC. It sucks but on the ...

I’ll add that it takes quite a bit for a company to cut their losses on training, obviously the future training problems were taken into account! Training failures the company will typically go quite a ways with... eventually the writing is in the wall though and experience levels coming in have ne...