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by Stratopaused
Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9720

Re: MOA2

Jesus Christ, you guys are complete narcissists if you think the primary factor in everyone's decision-making is how it affects you. :roll: Under the current circumstances, I don't think anyone is looking for ways to screw anyone else, they're just trying to keep their heads above water. I can't spe...
by Stratopaused
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

Ridiculous as always stratopaused. The sky won't fall without the one list. Encore will keep operating the same as every other regional. Management has never given an inch on anything with us. They fought us every step of the way with our contract negotiations, and they stretched out the implementa...
by Stratopaused
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

It has nothing to do with the WestJet pilots, you are so misguided. It's the corporation that determines your value. Stop with the pity me attitude. It has everything to do with the WestJet pilots, and you're deluding yourself if you think you're blameless. Encore stood alongside WestJet pilots and...
by Stratopaused
Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

Hey Stratopaused, The culture people at WestJet have done a great job expressing the Why of our jobs which is reflected in your posts regarding Encore’s contribution. I sense the Encore group has morphed this to a popularized idea that mainline is reaping the rewards off Encore’s contribution. I of...
by Stratopaused
Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

Unfortunately this isn’t new territory, I’m sure the “Air Canada Regional” Pilots said and thought the same things. There won’t be one buyer. The private equity firm may do what private equity firms have done thousands of times across all industry’s and package Encore with a lucrative 10 year CPA a...
by Stratopaused
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

At the end on the day you will need your employer on side for a single list or flow through. I very much doubt Onex will entertain anything that would make a possible sale of an asset more problematic. Good observation. Onex will likely have little appetite for merging WestJet and Encore which redu...
by Stratopaused
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

Dude you’re delusional (Strat), and over estimate your value. It’s a job, and if you feel you can do better elsewhere follow the exodus. Before the apocalypse which you predict would happen, WJ management will either sell off Encore or increase the utilization of a CPA. How many years was WestJet s...
by Stratopaused
Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 59004

Re: One List

As others have pointed out, taking away the GIANT CARROT to get folks in the door of Encore is not a problem for a pilot at Mainline; this is an Encore management problem. I think the fear that most have but won't say, is that they believe management will do nothing meaningful. Pilots (in my mind) ...
by Stratopaused
Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:11 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 30
Views: 9264

Re: Updates on one - list.

Again I’ll say I agree it should have been a yes vote the first time again so I don’t get angry responses. I just think it sets a bad precedent for the MEC to go out and go against a voted in result of its members, regardless what the results of the polling were. My understanding of the polling it ...
by Stratopaused
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 30
Views: 9264

Re: Updates on one - list.

What i meant by sold off is that westjet will sell it to some other company who will in turn have a CPA with westjet. Similar to The Link(pacific costal)agreement, or the jazz AC agreement. This will take the headache of Encore off WestJet’s plate so they can actually focus on 787 growth and not re...
by Stratopaused
Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 30
Views: 9264

Re: Updates on one - list.

You are right JBI.. but things have changed and managements boss has changed... ONEX will for sure have Some input now and there is no way they would Want to integrate encore with WestJet. Why you ask..... well because Encore is a asset that can be sold at some point. So keeping it separate now mak...
by Stratopaused
Mon May 20, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

I understand your and WENs anger. I would be upset too. But to state that 2 weeks of good faith from management after 3+ years of negativity has solidified your loyalties is either extremely naiive or extremely uninformed. Management cares about money/ costs / savings. You are not their considerati...
by Stratopaused
Mon May 20, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

Here’s the thing about that long post above. The company can put RJ’s at Encore tomorrow. It’s entirely their right as stated in our scope clause. It’s also not up to Encore Pilots to “accept” the aircraft. It would simply happen and you would have to fly them. Just that simple so insinuating that ...
by Stratopaused
Sun May 19, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

There's a rumour going around Encore that I think is relevant to the continuation, or not, of the One List, so I thought it pertinent to share it here. Everything that follows is rumour, speculation, and hearsay, and I don't claim to speak for management, so take from it what you will. For the last ...
by Stratopaused
Sat May 18, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

I understand emotions are high, but everyone needs to keep their emotions in check. I would say that support for the one-list has decreased even more since the vote after pilots at WJ have read/seen things Encore pilots are saying and doing. The day of the vote, the WJ MEC was already being pressur...
by Stratopaused
Sat May 18, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

The real information comes from our peers and general knowledge of the industry. We all know Encore has 60% flow (50% until recently), and that WJ has continued to post for external pilots since 2014. Outside hiring has continued, and will continue. Management has informed us that, for the foreseea...
by Stratopaused
Sat May 18, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

The real information comes from our peers and general knowledge of the industry. We all know Encore has 60% flow (50% until recently), and that WJ has continued to post for external pilots since 2014. Outside hiring has continued, and will continue. Management has informed us that, for the foreseea...
by Stratopaused
Fri May 17, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

Maybe rethink a broken system that puts a 10 000 hour B737 ACP at Encore in the first place? That's on the company. For years, they told applicants that the only way into WestJet was through Encore, and now that those experienced pilots are waiting for flow the company is hiring 2000-hour light tur...
by Stratopaused
Fri May 17, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

Everybody stays as is and going forward make two lists. If Encore is going to start hiring 500 hr instructors who will be more senior than the OTS hire with Jet time and experience at mainline it will not end well. So shouldn't we be doing whatever we can to make Encore desirable for more experienc...
by Stratopaused
Thu May 16, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 46373

Re: One list

How can there be a one list for two separate companies. ... ...With an LOA agreed to by all parties... Where have you been this whole time? WestJet and Swoop are technically two separate companies, and yet they have not only a common list but common employer status. That's because everyone agreed t...

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