Not knowing much about the arrival over LINNG nor being a terminal controller; we're doing the best we can with the rules set out as they are. As an above poster mentioned, put the pressure on Nav Can management. The tower staffing issues are a whole other kettle of fish. Not a day goes by where tho...

I agree with the above posters. So many specialties (at least in the YYZ ACC) are so desperate for manpower (or womanpower for that matter) that a CT results from either an innability to do the job or a severely crippling character flaw. To OP as someone not yet CT'd but on the fringe, if you find t...

Hey, I have passed the online aptitude test and am currently waiting for an invite to the next in class assessment for the YYZ FIR. Wondering if anyone has had an offer yet, or know when the next ones is roughly? As far as I know the next 2 courses have been filled so you're looking at Fall of 2017...

Just listening to a number of the audio phraseology samples supplied with ITA. Of course a number of the messages require a read back which contains a fair bit of information. Do controllers simply retain all the information that is being said or do they have aids in doing the read back. Some of th...

So I've heard rumors that there will be an allowance for trainees of approx 30K/year back dated to Jan 1, 2016. I'm wondering if this rumor has truth or if anyone has gotten back paid for their time training yet? I was training Jan/Feb and was an employee for awhile before getting released from the...

..the process from initial application to course offer can take anywhere from 9 months to 2 years. . While that's certainly within the realm of possibility, I think there's an effort in place to try to streamline the application process and only hold testing sessions when there is a need for course...

There's probably 10 threads with the pertinent information in them if you search the forum a bit. Depending on where you apply (demand is different in different areas of the country) and how well you score on the tests and interviews the process from initial application to course offer can take anyw...

It is interesting though that NavCan runs additional testing intakes when presumably they have plenty of able candidates already in the pool waiting. My understanding was that when they run an intake, it is because they need qualified candidates. Well what about the individuals who are waiting? I'v...

if the YYZ pool is so saturated, why are they running interviews this month? There are lots of opportunities in YYZ. What the previous poster meant about saturation is there are a ton of applicants for ~12 IFR and 6 VFR slots per trainning session (usually 2 a year, one in spring and one in fall). ...

Final Interview is scheduled near the end of June! It's been a long process so far, but the end is finally in sight. I've been looking around for some pointers on the second interview, but have only come across a few posts. If anyone would be willing to help me out please PM me. Thanks! FIR : YYZ O...

YYZ is the busiest airspace in Canada with almost double the movements of the next busiest FIR (when Nav Canada last published the numbers by FIR anyway). Certain areas are therefore divided vertically more than others to facilitate overflights vs arriving traffic. Hope that explains the situation a...

A training specialist told me that the new referral system will allow you to bypass the online test and go straight to the in person assessment but he doesn't know when this new method will become formal. This is the ERP or Employee Referral Program and only applies to those who have some kind of c...

Hi guys...this question deals with speed after leaving the hold. Not sure if this varies from one terminal to another but lets use YZ. With 33 ops, we sometimes get issued a hold. After slowing to clean speed and holding, do you expect us to maintain the holding speed or revert to 250 once cleared ...

Yeah, there's absolutely no reason to get the medical before you're offered a course. Nav Canada wants it done before you start your generic, true, but if you don't they won't drop you from the course due to a late medical. Now, if you have 4 weeks from offer acceptance to start of course and haven'...

chobs wrote:Sorry to hear that Sam.

Also a good lesson for other applicants though to not spend money on a physical before you actually get an offer.

Agreed. There is absolutely no need to have your medical completed until you have been offered a course.

I heard some talk about this today. The new CEO has made a commitment to treating trainees better. Step may or may not include: no longer charging a fee for the training course, earlier paid training (no idea of when that payment period would start but many ACCs are implementing the system Braun spo...

Hello all. I have searched through the message board and I haven't come across much information on the very first stage of the selection process which is filling out the application, writing a short essay and doing the online cognitive test. If there are other post on these questions I apologize in...

Did you do your written testing around November 5th? I'm in the same boat! Phone interview completed in November for YYZ, waiting for the second one (and waiting, and waiting.... :) Fingers crossed! One question I had is whether there is any way to check if the paperwork you submitted (notarized co...

I also am starting IFR Generic in 50 ish days. I only received the offer a week ago and have not received my official offer in the mail yet. How much training do you need to do before you go? How long do you spend studying before ever getting there? I am concerned now because I have not looked at t...

To answer your first question. No, they do not test for drugs. That being said, quit smoking pot if you want to have a career in ATC. I'm not going to suggest that you would even think about going to school high or anything like that but is it even worth the risk of having that suspicion on you as a...

I'm sure at some point someone has managed to complete training while working on the side, but I couldn't imagine doing that. The amount of my life that has been invested into training has been absolutely insane. I am exhausted after most days of lecture and sim but need to either stay late to prac...

Jeff,

6 in my course. Talk of 12 in the next IFR course. It's on the other coast so things may be different but don't take everything you're told as the only truth. Good luck to you.

Scuttlebutt is the next course is firing up in April. That being said some people on course now had 3 weeks notice so be patient and don't give up hope.

Well that's great to hear. I myself am not conflicted about potentially starting in this career at this age, but wondering if NavCan was. I hear in the US they don't accept anyone after the age of 31, not sure if that's true or not. Thanks all! That is true. Don't worry nfpeanut, I'm a 34 year old ...

I know class isn't just memorizing 'X' number of pages of MANOPS each day, but I guess what I was trying to get a sense of is.... Say each night you were looking to review the MANOPS sections you had covered that day in class.. On an average day would you typically be reviewing 5 pages? 10 pages? 5...