man if you guys knew of the 400hr(TT) hornet pilots flying around, landing in Inuvik at night in IMC you'd have an aneurism... Or the 500hr QFIs in Moose Jaw. Would I trust myself as a 200hr Cpl pilot flying in challenging conditions? Never. But I would trust a 200hr pilot in a right seat with a rel...

Good thing it was a Canadian crew, I don't want to imagine what could have happened if they were TFWs

dhc# wrote:Don't forget to add the cost of a new fleet of aerial boom tankers, (or pay to rely on the US Air Force) if Canada eventually goes with the F35A, since that model is not set up for the hose-drogue system that our Air Force uses on the Airbus/Herc tanker fleet.

I'm sure we'll be accommodated

J31 wrote:Any updates how the two pilots are doing? Sounds like one was airlifted to hospital.

They were released the same day.

I see the Harvard II is leased to the RCAF by CAE. So who is responsible pay for the loss? RCAF or CAE or insurance? Will this airframe be replaced and is there a minimum number that must be supplied to meet the contract? The planes are owned by a crown corporation, leased to CAE which then supplie...

Case and point, the AC post election glided to the ground struck a wing and is now resting upside down mangled. Granted no one was flying it but it doesn't take much imagination to picture the same thing happening with someone at the stick. The current rumour is that the gearbox failed. (For whomeve...

GyvAir wrote:

Gannet167 wrote:against the manufacturers operating procedures and the checklist.

What's the approved procedure when an engine failure occurs within safe gliding distance of a suitable runway?

Fly to a key position, secure the aircraft. Extend the gear and flaps. Land.

How many engine failiures of the Harvard do you know of? As far as I know this is the first one in Canada... The pilots were injured from landing a parachute in a 30kt wind. It's like jumping off a two story building that's moving at 60 kph. It's not going to be comfortable. However compared with po...

It always seems people question the decision to say good bye to the plane... I wonder why that is. If this incident is what I heard it was they wouldn't have had much gliding time before getting on the edge of the "preferred" ejection envelope. On another note the winds were seemingly gusting to 30 ...

I find it strange they would salute on the flight line?

crazyaviator wrote:

Condolences.

WHAT the F__K was that for ??? They were playing russian roulette, what do you expect???

What happened to you that you feel loss of life isn't tragic, no matter the circumstances

Just saw the movie. Seem most star fighter fights are atmospheric anyways. I don't think there is to much cloak and dagger to it.. probably the same stuff the Russians have bern doing for 30 years. Saw the SU-27 in the early 90s and gawd what they could make that plane do. The BlueAngels were an em...

You'd be surprised at how much FOD it can swallow and still be functional. I think this might have to do with how vulnerable the jet is in that position and even a fluctuation of power could prove disastrous.

More important to get votes in key ridings by pork barrel politics than picking the right equipment to save lives. I'm not surprised, just disappointed that something as critical as this mission would be used as a political pawn. It's shameless and completely indefensible. Welcome to the Canadian m...

ThatArmyGuy wrote:

Gannet167 wrote:If anything, it would appear the guys with 2000 hours and multi-IFR quals are some of the worst performing students.

So the AF no longer offers those with a licence to skip PFT? Or is this an inaccurate assumption?

If you have a CPL you can skip PFT in Portage.

There's a conspiracy theory that claims that the jump platoon commanders are behind the closure of the airport at Namao because they couldn't complicate the organization of training for the paratroopers. Now they have to organize the logistics of taking all those guys plus kit to the international w...

Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival. That seems unusual. I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival, if it was fully opened high enough AGL. Is it cold enough in Cold Lake right now for it to be possible the pilot succumbed to the elements? In any case, sad to...

ZBBYLW wrote:

Mick G wrote:I assume this was a single seat, but does anybody know for sure if it was single or dual...if so, did the other crewman eject?

Apparently it was a single seat jet according to a pr type for the airforce.

Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.

Thanks for the insight Auxbat, I was under the impression the conversion wasn't so straight forward. Definitely will make things simpler if they are able to just integrate the new frames into the existing Sqn. And Mick, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm not sure you spoke to the same CF pilots...

It's not a terrible thing don't get me wrong. But unless we use these to their full potential as growlers down the line, the expense of re training pilots and techs, standing up a new Sqn and the logistical nightmare of having two fleets will be a steep price to pay for a political party to save fac...

AuxBatOn wrote:I think the SH as a stop gap is a good idea albeit a little too late. Nonetheless, I hope we pick a good sensor package (APG-79 with Growler upgrade option).

Being able to turn these into growlers down the line is the only positive thing about this deal...

Purely political finagling in hope to save themselves from their foolish election promise. At the end of the day it will cost the tax payers more when we finally get the F35 after the "fair" procurement process takes place. It's going to cost billions because over the course of the last 20 years no ...

I'm sorry, I missed this... Where does it say that the aircraft increased power before impact? Nobody has said they applied power, that is just standard practice to recover out of a stall. The point was that if the passengers were able to reach the cockpit with a incapacitated pilot and the plane o...

ogopogo wrote:Ferrying the PM and the media around to China and within China? Just curious.

Canforce 01 I think (CFC01)

25 years of financially starving the Armed Forces, and we're now seeing the results. 2 Days to reach the sit of a domestic natural disaster despite its close proximity to Cold Lake. Thoughts are with everyone in the region. Another ignorant comment... Why do you think it took two days? Do you think...