is it also true since AT has business class cabin, AT employee can also list on other airlines that has businss class cabin? Not at the moment since AT doesn't have a business class cabin. But that will change when they get a proper business class cabin with the coming 787s. I can find zero referen...

Kingair200 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:45 am is it also true since AT has business class cabin, AT employee can also list on other airlines that has businss class cabin?

Not at the moment since AT doesn't have a business class cabin. But that will change when they get a proper business class cabin with the coming 787s.

rookiepilot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:52 pm IMG_0012.png

If they did rwy 21 its a fairly steep approach due to terrain, high minimums, and there is a 700 ft displacement

Whats so steep about this approach? Looking at the plate altitudes you can make it quite shallow actually.

I was flying back from Europe a few days ago and heard a Flair callsign while crossing Ireland. I wasn't sure if I heard correctly the first time, but when I heard it the second time, it was definitely Flair.

Curious as to what a Flair bird was doing all the way out there.

It's a moot point. They honestly believe this crap of "new company", "ULCC can't pay that much", " First contract in the right direction". You could show them what Avelo, a new ULCC in the states pays their pilots and they''l change the conversation to the US being a different market altogether. Do ...

This guy co-joe is really taking "highest paid FO" to the bank. Did you bother to take a look at any other company's pay for more than the first year? Congratulations, you're marginally better than the passenger airlines (because you're still behind the cargo guys) for the first 12 months. You then...

twa22, ask bacunayagua (sorry if it's not spelled correctly) He says he has a copy and will post it here. I'm done here, it's all too over the top. Respectfully I do understand what it is you want. It's the same where I work, pulling this industry up isn't easy and will it take time. Hope you find ...

As much as I don't agree with the low pilot payscale you have to consider that, Flair is a start up, they don't have too much money. Can't compare Canada, population 38m to the USA, population 340m. Way different market. Compare Canada to Australia then. Roughly the same landmass. 10M smaller popul...

These are the key changes that will impact the pilots the most. Anything not included in here is because it is status quo from the last contract. So essentially a turd on top of a turd. Feel free to post all these other magical things that make the contract so much better that aren't included in the...

Sorry GRK2, took me a while to find something that could host the size of the file. Ended up having to resort to other means. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MO_wwPJ639OGtFJoLOJ7xzXybpTmFnwD/view?usp=sharing I love how they took 2 sick days from you because the government now mandates 3 paid person...

Jeezuz you guys are exhausting. Have any of you actually seen the TA you so disparage so much? I don't think you have. In fact I KNOW you haven't. If you do indeed work for Flair why are you still there if it's so shitty? Settle down and wait for the details or you'll risk looking even more divisiv...

Jeezuz you guys are exhausting. Have any of you actually seen the TA you so disparage so much? I don't think you have. In fact I KNOW you haven't. If you do indeed work for Flair why are you still there if it's so shitty? Settle down and wait for the details or you'll risk looking even more divisiv...

This guy co-joe is really taking "highest paid FO" to the bank. Did you bother to take a look at any other company's pay for more than the first year? Congratulations, you're marginally better than the passenger airlines (because you're still behind the cargo guys) for the first 12 months. You then ...

This guy co-joe is really taking "highest paid FO" to the bank. Did you bother to take a look at any other company's pay for more than the first year? Congratulations, you're marginally better than the passenger airlines (because you're still behind the cargo guys) for the first 12 months. You then ...

Yeah thats fair. Either way, I wouldn't be bragging about having the highest first or second year pay when you quickly lag behind everyone else afterwards.

Does anyone have any other information regarding the rest of the TA? There should be much more than just pay.

Big old @#$! you to FOs. How is being the highest paid FOs in Canada for 2 years and then upgrading, a big F U? Chrono Jet starts their 737 fo’s at $80k… just sayin. Yeah, Morningstar and CargoJet also start higher. Morningstar I believe is the highest in Canada at around 90K for a first year FO. A...

The FO side is extremely disappointing. Any other important takeaways from the TA? This is still a TA, correct? Not an arbitrated decision or binding in any way and still needs to be voted on?

Well then I guess the 17 year contract that we signed in 2018 guaranteeing Jazz a minimum of 80 find from 2025-2035 was actually a wise move. Many on here called us idiots for signing a 17 year contract at the time. I won’t hold my breath for an apology There is nothing in commercial aviation that ...

Do none of you realize he's just trying to piss you all off at this point?

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Boomers love to call millennials entitled. But the level of entitlement I'm seeing lately from high time pilots its just unbelievable. Just because you have hours doesn't mean you're a good fit for the job. It also doesn't take a genius to realize they have one or two positions open. So even if they...

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Gentlemen,

Discussing the particulars of how big red came out of the other side sin't going to change the fact that the same thing will happen now, that happened then. The pilot group will once again bed over, and take it without lube.

Interesting, I would have thought this issue would have been ironed out already since I keep on hearing "everyone has agreed to it".

Thanks.

Any updates on the status of the "one list", between WJ and Encore?