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skybaron

Wow. Take home year 6 FO $1600??

What are guys taking home these days on Flat Pay at Air Canada??

skybaron

I reckon this vote had ZERO to do with the so called language with the LOA, and more to do with the OTS influencing the masses with their BS. Yes, all mainline folks are disgruntled because of the Kaplan shit show, and those that voted against their brothers just had to display a temper tantrum. Pis...

skybaron

Thanks guys. You've really emphasized that WestJet and Encore are separate, and we're not on the same team. I can't speak for everyone, but I for one am done helping you, and I'm going to take every small opportunity I have to jab back at you. To the guys who used my jumpseat to get home on the las...

skybaron

Never in my lifetime of flying would I ever think WJ pilots would want to sewer their fellow Encore pilots, I expected this from company, but now the WJ pilots who are saying NO are most definitely not going to be respected by Encore pilots, their partners, anyone who has any values in their body. ...

skybaron

Happy for the Encore guys and gals! I think it's a great starting agreement! Well done. Dave I believe that many Encore people voted this contract in because it’s somehow tied to the main seniority list. But, from what I understand, is that the seniority list is dependant on what the WJ Pilots vote...

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mel gibson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:15 am https://careers.aircanada.com/

Exactly!

skybaron

Encore One List without YOS is going to be the recipe for complete disaster in a couple of years. So I guess you’ll get to see the Air Ontario movie again. It makes it difficult for WJ to attract qualified candidates who sit at the bottom of the Encore mountain of seniority numbers. It doesn’t offe...

skybaron

Are they getting YEARS OF SERVICE? The way I read the post above, no YOS. You get 1200 / month for 24 months when you flow to WJ. That means first year salary is closer to 68k (54k+14 top up) and second year you're around 72k or so. Correct? Smart move by management, looks like typical flow takes a...

skybaron

Are they getting YEARS OF SERVICE?

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skybaron

Christ... Everything ok man? Someone is salty about life. You obviously don’t have first hand info about CURRENT Encore so why waste time and stress over bashing it. I agree. If you want to go to AC, go to Jazz. End of story. You shouldn’t go to Encore if you don’t want to end up at WJ mainline. Si...

skybaron

If you want any sort of life outside of work - I would avoid Encore entirely. The guys that left there have ZERO positive things to say about the place. You will be worked to the max almost all the time, and your duty days will almost always be unnecessarily high in hours (not flight time). Encore’...

skybaron

If you want any sort of life outside of work - I would avoid Encore entirely. The guys that left there have ZERO positive things to say about the place. You will be worked to the max almost all the time, and your duty days will almost always be unnecessarily high in hours (not flight time). Encore’s...

skybaron

Vindicated.

Let’s be clear, while OTS didn’t help matters, it is in fact the COMPANY that started this disaster, and it’s the shareholders and BOD getting the rewards. They just pegged the pilot group against each other knowing full well the outcome. Teal pawns.

skybaron

Sounds like a big mess. No doubt WJ is experiencing an exodus of pilots. I wonder, what would it take for the WJ Group to pull an extraordinary, positive move - and actually go beyond Kaplan’s award to say that ALL people under the hocus pocus of a corporate umbrella will actually receive the same W...

skybaron

Note to WestJet: stapling a bunch of flights together does not make you an international airline. The B787 won’t make an ounce of difference (other than the massive capital costs) if you keep the amateur mentality. If you don’t have the fleet capacity wetlease a proper machine like everyone else fo...

skybaron

You’re gonna need deep pockets to live in Vancouver on a floaters salary. Heck, even golden-era AC skippers based in YVR will tell you they’re just “getting by” - (although, maybe a divorce or two doesn’t help the situation).

Good luck.

skybaron

Easy.

Jazz or Encore. Any experience will do apparently.

skybaron

right now Westjet doesn't have problem with recruiting pilots. With the new contract they can reduce mainline pilots by 10%. SO 140 ish people can leave WJ mainline and they will be fine. if you ask me I think Westjet wants to lose 140 pilots, this is good for anyone at mainline because this helps ...

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goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:04 am Tell them you can't afford a hotel for 6 weeks and will have to decline the job.

Oh man, I don’t know how WJ is still able to attract pilots.

This company is getting worse by the hour.

skybaron

Adding a foe is a lifesaver for this forum and aviation in general.

Once you’re signed in, just click on one of MANY John’s personalities, and you can foe the mofo right there.

Can’t say it’s been a slice John, but it sure is now that I don’t have to see your crap on this forum.

skybaron

I wonder if the moderators can ban him just for being a tool. He needs help and this forum is getting overrun with his crap. It’s not even worth reading posts anymore. Soon as he posts, people sign off. .80, JTrain, George, and lost: once you’ve signed in, click on the down arrow next to your usern...

skybaron

Rezy, I fail to see how this contract is a big win for anyone. It’s seems what’s been accomplished is the same thing you’ve all been complaining about with Air Canada, and how their contract only took care of the senior greys while they ate their young. Make no mistake, this is a terrible outcome. Y...

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skybaron wrote: ↑Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:15 pm
FICU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:47 am
What a disgrace!

Can the mainline pilots at Swoop bid back to mainline or are they frozen? If they could it might be some leverage if they all threatened to bid back essentially grounding Swoop.
Brilliant.

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