RidersRule wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:47 pm DONT FEED THE TROLL

Lol. Believe it or not, I agree.

Interesting times ahead with this project and the other starting next year.

Cheers

You are missing an important point. Notwithstanding WestJet owns both, Wja & Swoop, they are different companies with different OC’s. Therefore, although work is being contracted to WJA, Swoop can and will get whatever training contracts needed by any company that will provide it at a reasonable cos...

One list and forced on us. Interesting. Maybe that is where alpa should look for guidance in solving this. The one list works for Encore and the relationship seem to be working. Push for a one list with Swoop and maybe this may get everyone back to the table vs having the CIRB imposing something th...

Are the anti - ALPA posters on here the same guy? Boney, NewCommercialPilot, squawk, rotten apple As for Boney or whoever this person's current alias is, Rouge does not involve a LOA. Pilots bid it for various reasons. One list, period. And that was forced on us FYI One list and forced on us. Inter...

By the way, and I stand corrected, but, isn’t Rouge flown by AC pilots on LOA, or something similar, working for less than AC pay, I think using WJA contract? If yes, funny that they are egging you on to strike? I guess they are looking out for you, or maybe, looking out for themselves especially wi...

Smile. Lol

Long live the brotherhood.

Hope you are happy. There were enough WJA pilots that applied for the LOA to crew at least 3 airplanes, mostly commuters.

You just threw your own under the bus. Sad How so? Saving them from themselves more like it. Arguments were made by the company and alpa and the independent third party, after weighing the evidence decided that something stank, and ruled accordingly. You know "boney", were you planning on leaving y...

You just threw your own under the bus.

Sad

Rupert.Pupkin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:19 pm Anyone that goes to Swoop is a scab and hopefully will be treated like one by the rest of us. I know I’ll do my part.

This comment is why unions have a bad name. I trust you will reconsider your comment.

That does not absolve you of your responsibility to produce an opinion based on fact. You can contact your manager for the above mentioned ULP complaints and Injunction requests. I suspect they will be less than thrilled to provide them though. There are 4 documents in total that provide the legal ...

If we could get a one list with Swoop, like Encore, that YOS will follow back to mainline. Those that took up the 2 year LOA have at least ensured that. That's one massive assumption in the GS era. This is all about low costs. We don't have a YOS at WestJet unless your Captain 37 going captain 67. ...

Not an ALPA member, like the ~20% of WJA pilots, therefore have no access to any information. Yes, I'm fully aware that I have no say, but that's my choice. Cheers [/quote] 20 percent... that doesn’t sound like a made up number at all... [/quote] Can ALPA then provide the number of WJA pilots that ...

This is incorrect. You need to read ALPA's response to WestJet's ULP complaint. WestJet twice approached ALPA regarding negotiations of Swoop. WestJet set one condition that ALPA must sign an agreement stating they forfeit all rights under Part 1 of the Canada Labour Code to begin negotiations. I.E...

......ALPA could have been up front at the table, with our own pilots, but choose to fight vs collaborate. This is incorrect. You need to read ALPA's response to WestJet's ULP complaint. WestJet twice approached ALPA regarding negotiations of Swoop. WestJet set one condition that ALPA must sign an ...

There have been a lot of interest and applications at Swoop, even with ALPA's black list. Many think that since there is no contract, as yet, with WJA, Swoop will end up in contract talks, and ALPA in their desire to get a CBA, which ALPA needs badly, aka dues, they will lift this black list. Bette...

There have been a lot of interest and applications at Swoop, even with ALPA's black list. Many think that since there is no contract, as yet, with WJA, Swoop will end up in contract talks, and ALPA in their desire to get a CBA, which ALPA needs badly, aka dues, they will lift this black list. Better...

So, if pilot "A" heeds ALPA's request and not apply to Swoop, and pilot "B" applies and is hired, what will ALPA say to pilot A, a year or so when an agreement is put in place and all is forgiven, even accepting those that are already on Swoop's property?

There's the rub.

Years ago, during my flight training, I did a manoeuvre, not unlike the above post, and didn’t like the way the aircraft felt. I overshot and returned, landed and went immediately to my instructor and explained my experience. He smiled, and both of us went up to the training area at 3000 ft to recr...

Years ago, during my flight training, I did a manoeuvre, not unlike the above post, and didn’t like the way the aircraft felt. I overshot and returned, landed and went immediately to my instructor and explained my experience. He smiled, and both of us went up to the training area at 3000 ft to recre...