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by jjj
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WS/WO Layoff Mitigation Agreement
Replies: 95
Views: 34149

Re: WS/WO Layoff Mitigation Agreement

Roughly a 10 am tweet ahead of a leak.

1 pm official email from Union after vetted by legal.

Yep - lots of hurt butts from the anti-ALPA crowd.

JJJ
by jjj
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 22491

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Rudder - your comments are accurate.

CB used to be held in high regards. It's been several years since he was re dubbed "Angry Grampa."

Yes the shoe is on the other foot and CB made out like a bandit after Uncle Gerry came to the rescue.
by jjj
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 22491

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The NC is looking way into the future well beyond a 2 year recovery. They are looking into the next contract. When the dust settles and it will - this group needs to be back where it was. WS is operating at 5% capacity. How many jobs of the 1700 lost do you think they could have saved @Furlough? At ...
by jjj
Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 22491

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Well those who were upset about Encore making concessions, must be right happy now that the mainline MEC wasn't able to save a single job. Those top ~500 guys can now continue making 150-200K +ESP while the rest get laid off. Correct that the WS MEC did not reduce the number of lay offs. What they ...
by jjj
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

Stated again in another way. If you don’t believe there is some cross pollination between the bargaining groups and some accountability then you are silly. If you think the Encore MECs sole responsibility is to their bargaining unit then you are silly. BEDE said it well above. The Encore MEC effecti...
by jjj
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

The MOA did not save 150 jobs. The fleet plan moving forward at reduced capacity always included the Q. Way to go. JJJ We went from 150 spots to 292. 142 more open spots for mainline to bump into... ...at the ultimate cost of 737 jobs higher up the food chain. And at the cost of worse terms for tho...
by jjj
Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

To address a comment from above about the cautionary note to beware cancelling the one list because of the whipsaw threat with RJs. Here’s how that plays out. You all get flushed. Your MEC and your LEC get flushed. Your bargaining unit is full up with ex 737 guys who want to go back there. No shiny ...
by jjj
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:16 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

The MOA did not save 150 jobs.

The fleet plan moving forward at reduced capacity always included the Q.

Way to go.

JJJ
by jjj
Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:50 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

A lot of misunderstanding on this thread. All the mainline guys wanted was the deal they fought for. There is no entitlement and no one is spoiled. Lots of the jet guys were Encore guys. All of us pulling in the same direction. Among other things - Encore gets a seniority spot on a list and the Jet ...
by jjj
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: MOA2
Replies: 64
Views: 9379

Re: MOA2

So if I understand it correctly the Encore MEC blew their load to save jobs. 150 or so jobs preserved at reduced wages until the end of the year. In the end almost every Encore pilot on the property today gets flushed and they leave a dirty turd for the guys bumping down. Maybe they save a handful o...
by jjj
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Layoffs
Replies: 477
Views: 102388

Re: Layoffs

Dummies try to sue airlines all the time when they feel wronged in the hiring process. Hardly does it ever work. AC did nothing wrong to this guy when he didn't get his call. He isn't owed anything. Sad that when he plays it honest a lot of employers won't want to touch him. I get it - but not Acs f...
by jjj
Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze
Replies: 177
Views: 43858

Re: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze

With these Oil prices is there a chance for some serious hedging and rapid comebacks?
by jjj
Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze
Replies: 177
Views: 43858

Re: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze

I have considered the prospect of a job share or pay cut. That would be cool as long as it came with fences. If you give up 10% at a place like WestJet then you need assurances that you will get it back. Guys on furlough also need to come back to the same job they left - not something worse than wh...
by jjj
Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze
Replies: 177
Views: 43858

Re: WestJet Group Hiring Freeze

I have considered the prospect of a job share or pay cut. That would be cool as long as it came with fences. If you give up 10% at a place like WestJet then you need assurances that you will get it back. Guys on furlough also need to come back to the same job they left - not something worse than whe...
by jjj
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:01 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Westjet ad.
Replies: 75
Views: 13497

Re: Westjet ad.

One advantage of a pension is that it saves pilots who are bad at money management.

The guy that said 20 percent of his income and the whole match from the company is for retirement is one of those that need help.

JJJ
by jjj
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Westjet ad.
Replies: 75
Views: 13497

Re: Westjet ad.

62.09 x 930 x 1.2 company match + 7.3k option replacement. = 76.5k. (Then add whatever you feel perdiems will be). If you came from encore, add 14.4k for each of the first 2 yrs. Why don’t you add in the parking benefit, or dry cleaning allowance, maybe the sick time and why not add the cost of an ...
by jjj
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Swoop Terrain Warning
Replies: 79
Views: 15743

Re: Swoop Terrain Warning

To suggest that WJ's SOPs are not evolved or do not evolve is far from the truth. Sure they lack in some ways and there still lingers a few things that are a throwback to the days of the rusty old 200. What is lost on some of the dummies like Tbalyx is that a professional pilot knows that SOPs have ...
by jjj
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: OTS WesJet Mainline FO
Replies: 75
Views: 19230

Re: OTS WesJet Mainline FO

One thing your average Encore pilot won’t tell you is that during their interview they were asked if they understood the “One List?” They were also made to understand that the list was nothing more than a handshake and was not enshrined in anything. It was also made clear that it could go away. Long...
by jjj
Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 57162

Re: One List

The list of people getting screwed as you declare does not expand with time.

People not yet hired have no entitlement to anything. Anyone starting these days knows fully that they are walking into a quagmire of seniority problems.

Frankly the number of pilots potentially affected is fixed.

JJJ
by jjj
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: New WestJet FO
Replies: 41
Views: 14560

Re: New WestJet FO

I don't think people are slagging pilots who jump from WS to AC to chase a better future. I think the point is that if you've been around long enough you know that nothing is for certain in this biz. A jump to AC may not work out as intended - that's all. No ill will to anyone who's trying to make i...

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