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by SwoopStar
Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Grooming thread gone bye bye???
Replies: 9
Views: 4896

Re: Grooming thread gone bye bye???

Posted in error.
by SwoopStar
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Also, please do not think of SWOOP/WestJet in terms of Rouge/Air Canada. The business model of SWOOP is fundamentally different than WestJet with no overlap or connectivity to prevent cannibalization. More important, the collective agreements' scope clause prevents any other airline engaging in a bu...
by SwoopStar
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

It's been four months since the start of the thread with its summary of the contract. Anyone willing to share what the rostering has been like ? Is it still 18/19 days of work in a 30/31 day month ? :?: Nothing has changed. SWOOP's LOU is in the process of being reformatted to match the rest of the...
by SwoopStar
Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Hiring?
Replies: 19
Views: 4470

Re: Hiring?

Thank you DaveP. I described the SWOOP interview process as experienced by the direct hires of 2018. As a FYI for other readers, if SWOOP is unable to attract the necessary talent, the LOU will be opened and subject to a vote by all WestJet pilots. Likely, the WestJet pilots will not vote for anythi...
by SwoopStar
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Hiring?
Replies: 19
Views: 4470

Re: Hiring?

SWOOP's interview is now conducted by both WestJet and SWOOP.

*Edited for accuracy.
by SwoopStar
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Hiring?
Replies: 19
Views: 4470

Re: Hiring?

SWOOP will likely hire you for 737 FO, mainline not likely. SWOOP has already hired pilots in your circumstance. Our current CP was a TC inspector prior with several years out of the saddle. Grab your type rating, get current, then leave. There has never been, or likely will ever be, this opportunit...
by SwoopStar
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

As an update, WestJet and SWOOP have separated recruitment. SWOOP remains confident and boasts that they've received a "strong response" regarding recruitment. Below are a few thoughts for new recruits. The 50 or so pilots who wish to bid back to WestJet will NOT be allowed on the next bid. Further,...
by SwoopStar
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

SWOOP'S GEOGRAPHY PROBLEM Please allow me to comment on the myth that the business model of SWOOP will provide a good quality of life schedule. Most ULCC's operate on a roster consisting of sets of "mornings" or "evenings" and no overnights. This is a favorable point of a ULCC pilot. For example, a ...
by SwoopStar
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Watch everybody come back and attack this statement, truth as it is. Truth to you, luckily you are the minority :goodman: .....As for the comment about grey days and such, my sources on the ground say otherwise. It is clear that most of the guys that went to Swoop, did so under the false promises b...
by SwoopStar
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Yes, Donald! But make sure you tell them that it didn't go OTS. That's important. Winning. Positions should only be filled OTS if nobody already at the company bids for then. It’s not rocket surgery 🙄 WJ management WILL NOT upgrade an Encore FO onto a 737. NEVER. WON'T HAPPEN. Ever. Get that sh!t t...
by SwoopStar
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Cloak,

It is true that GREY DAYS are not in effect as the final draft of the LOU has yet to be completed.

However SWOOP's position is that the definition of a "day off" allows for GREY DAYS.

It is now another battle for ALPA to fight.

SWOOP FAs operate under GREY DAYS.
by SwoopStar
Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

NEW DEVELOPMENT Given the crewing challenges that resulted in several cancellations as well as a costly charter, Swoop management is now implementing GREY DAYs into the LOU via their interpretation of the definition of a day off. A GREY DAY is a day off awarded but not requested as a day off. Flying...
by SwoopStar
Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

See below.
by SwoopStar
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft
Replies: 524
Views: 81932

Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

So when does OTS hiring for DEC resume? Will tbaylx be back? Or will low-time Encore pilots fill the left seat? Things are different now as the LOU has deteriorated from the original working conditions. Mainly, the former OTS CAs who left now lose their 12500$ annual bonus, resulting in 10% less co...
by SwoopStar
Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Can you elaborate on this? Are these former WJ F/Os that went to Swoop for a Capt. position and now want to go back to being F/Os at WJ? If so, why? They're paid less and work more. An example of a FO with 4 years at WS on Step 5. Step 5 FO - 103$/hr, 20%ESP, Stock Options (5500$) profit share, Max...
by SwoopStar
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

It is important to note that 50 or so Swoop pilots are screaming to get back to mainline to fill positions that are presently being filled by new hires. No one knows what the outcome will be. Can you elaborate on this? Are these former WJ F/Os that went to Swoop for a Capt. position and now want to...
by SwoopStar
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

It is important to note that 50 or so Swoop pilots are screaming to get back to mainline to fill positions that are presently being filled by new hires.
by SwoopStar
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Ok your right, However, if you bid to rouge 320 you are frozen to the 320 at rouge with no chance to bid 320 mainline. Again, Swoop is absolute shit. I don’t blame you for wanting to get out. But accepting a job at very subpar conditions that you were well aware of,in the hopes/attempt to get ahead...
by SwoopStar
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

DropTanks wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Just a correction to the OP.

Overtime is after 90hrs. Not 80.
Corrected! Thanks.
by SwoopStar
Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Ok your right, However, if you bid to rouge 320 you are frozen to the 320 at rouge with no chance to bid 320 mainline. Again, Swoop is absolute shit. I don’t blame you for wanting to get out. But accepting a job at very subpar conditions that you were well aware of,in the hopes/attempt to get ahead...
by SwoopStar
Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Demeter wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:05 pm
There is no airport reserve.
Unfortunately it is true, Demeter.

Section 16 of the LOU.

16.1 " Pilots assigned a mixed line monthly schedule will receive four (4) credit hours per day of reserve or airport stand by reserve, if not utilized."
by SwoopStar
Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

jpilot77 wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:03 pm
You can if you’re changing bases.
Only Swoop bases.
by SwoopStar
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:01 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

Swoop is a big ol piece of shit, no doubt about it and I hope it burns to the ground. With that LOU, it probably will do just that. As for the freeze. AC has a freeze. If you pull 767 FO in initial and have a shitty schedule you cannot just bid off to the 320. This is normal and not just at WestJet...
by SwoopStar
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

Re: SWOOP - A New Hires Future

I have to reiterate the 24 month freeze. If you are hired this year with the only option of Swoop, you will be frozen for 24 months. If Swoops growth slows, and if subsequent bids show availability at mainline, they will go to new hires junior to you. One would hope that when the freeze is done, the...
by SwoopStar
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: SWOOP - A New Hires Future
Replies: 187
Views: 37417

SWOOP - A New Hires Future

To the new hires, welcome to Swoop. Your new home. Below are the conditions you will be working for if selected for employment by Swoop. As a background, Swoop has 6 aircraft with 70ish pilots and intends to grow to 10 aircraft by years’ end. The wages and working conditions were subjected to a medi...

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