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- Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:15 am
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
I don’t know where you get your information from but nothing you said is correct, Air Canada was actually doing a more sizable portion of SVA flying than WJ, very little was done by Westjet, over 80% was done by sunwing pilots on sunwing or dry leased aircraft. Westjet was not equipped to battle Air...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:54 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
I would actually be willing to bet more have left Westjet to go to Sunwing than the other way around. I know of at least 6 and only 1 that left Sunwing to go to Westjet. Ungrateful? Not sure what SWG pilots should be grateful of. The right to bargain next month was taken away hence pay raise opportu...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:48 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
If you’d take a look at the seniority list floating around it has projected losses and gains. Almost all gains are for WJ pilots and it marginally affects upgrade times, and almost all sunwing pilots STILL lose pay and captain years. Not sure where Westjet pilots think they will have 15 year upgrade...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
Ungrateful? Not sure what SWG pilots should be grateful of. The right to bargain next month was taken away hence pay raise opportunity and contract improvements gone. deployments are gone, SWG pilots will now operate under a contract that is at the same time marginally better and worse in different ...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:48 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
Per diem isn’t a part of the T4 earnings in the arbitrators write up. (Per diem is not recorded on T4s) If it was, every single Sunwing pilot would make even more than what he saw, many make 20k in perdiem per year from deployments. The fact is that the average sunwing pilot makes more annual income...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:42 am
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: Sunwing/Westjet
- Replies: 523
- Views: 155339
Re: Sunwing/Westjet
Windfall gains? There were no windfall gains made by anybody in this merger, If you look into the history of all mergers in the past 30 years in the US and Canada, apart from the last DOH merger 30 years ago, the younger company ALWAYS “gains” on DOH. In this specific scenario with WJ and SWG, if yo...
- Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:06 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Play The Long Game
- Replies: 100
- Views: 21140
Re: Play The Long Game
I don’t think you are understanding that today’s money is worth more than tomorrows. The earnings in year 1,2,3,4… , these days are usually pilots between 25-35 years old most likely with debt to pay off. These are often critical years in a persons life to settle down, but a house and start a family...
- Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:03 am
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Merger Board Order
- Replies: 40
- Views: 14499
Re: Merger Board Order
Who paid Sunwings Govt loan that was taken out during Covid? Was it the profitable hotel business or the WestJet employees? https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/126547-canadas-westjet-must-repay-sunwings-c317mn-federal-loan It was the Onex and their investors :rolleyes: which also propped up Westjet…
- Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:36 am
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Merger Board Order
- Replies: 40
- Views: 14499
Re: What does Westjet gain
I’m still very confused on what WestJet pilots get? 80,000 block hrs means nothing when you add 550 pilots. Seems very one sided at this point. Hopefully arbitration will balance things out. Westjet (employing over 14,000) people was a crippled, primarily domestic/trans border carrier coming out of...
- Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Merger Board Order
- Replies: 40
- Views: 14499
Re: What does Westjet gain
I’m still very confused on what WestJet pilots get? 80,000 block hrs means nothing when you add 550 pilots. Seems very one sided at this point. Hopefully arbitration will balance things out. Westjet (employing over 14,000) people was a crippled, primarily domestic/trans border carrier coming out of...
- Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:13 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: 1st year FO
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7216
Re: 1st year FO
You’ll take a minimum of 20% on top of your salary every year, without even trying. First year FO now you’re looking at a minimum of $90k before tax. Per diems are high as well $5.15/hr domestic layovers, $7/hr US layovers, $7+ international…
- Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:29 pm
- Forum: Sunwing
- Topic: A sinking ship?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11380
Re: A sinking ship?
I don't know why any pilot would look at media and pax complaints when looking for a job. According to pax every Canadian airline is about 2/5 stars. :rolleyes: Remember the WJ and AC disaster of the their just past busy summer season when every single day for months flights were canceled or mass de...
- Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:53 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: TA Passed
- Replies: 143
- Views: 36641
Re: TA Passed
Sunwing got this below just recently. It is supposed to be WJ + 2.5%... spend some time to compare yours. They also have better working conditions than you. THEY ARENT EVEN NEGOTIATING. THIS WAS A MOA not a TA. WAKE UP! 18 months for what Sunwing pulled in matter of 4-6week! and this effectively be...
- Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:00 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: TA Passed
- Replies: 143
- Views: 36641
Re: TA Passed
If management is celebrating a TA passing as is what’s going on here you have failed as pilots to stand up for yourselves. This contract took 18 months to negotiate? Jesus christ people wake up, what were you doing. Sunwing negotiated an MOA mid contract in weeks, worth multiple times more than this...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:23 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: TA…HERE IT IS AND IT SUCKS
- Replies: 144
- Views: 42019
Re: TA…HERE IT IS AND IT SUCKS
This is a step in the right direction. What did you expect? 50% wage increases? Canadian pilots are shockingly divided, misinformed and generally ignorant. The US far more advanced in pretty much every way - its not worth comparing. When is the last time a company dished out a 23-25% pay raise up h...
- Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:33 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: TA…HERE IT IS AND IT SUCKS
- Replies: 144
- Views: 42019
Re: TA…HERE IT IS AND IT SUCKS
Top scale Capt makes more than equiv AC 737 skip. Senior FO a little less. I wish for yours and all our sakes that were the case. But for now… 737 Capt. Day - 216 Night- 244 FO Day - 145. Night - 162 Plus Nav and Ovrseas. The hourly is lower but the guaranteed salary actually is higher than AC, reg...
- Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:54 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: After the no vote…
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2075
- Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:52 am
- Forum: Air Transat
- Topic: Realistic minimums for getting hired
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4609
Re: Realistic minimums for getting hired
Hello guys. I’m shy of 1700 hours and wanted to know if someone is ever hired below 2000hrs? Wanted to know the right time to put the resume in. That's plenty for Sunwing these days ... probably 1,000 hours more than needed :rolleyes: Applied with 2000 hours, never heard anything back. If you went ...
- Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:52 pm
- Forum: Porter Airlines
- Topic: Time for ALPA
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2449
Re: Time for ALPA
Wait, FOs at Porter don't get an EFB? Nope… And you Porter folks pay for your own parking?? Yes… "Who else thinks the time has come for us to join ALPA?" Not a lot of takers thus far. Somebody sounds suspiciously negative… not a topic where a lot of people would openly answer here anyways.
- Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:47 pm
- Forum: Porter Airlines
- Topic: Time for ALPA
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2449
Time for ALPA
Who else thinks the time has come for us to join ALPA? Or better yet, tell me why we would not want join ALPA, the benefits greatly outweigh the disadvantages IMHO. There is a reason why the vast majority of airlines are unionized. With the EMJs coming, massive hiring plans, and a potential slow dow...
- Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:20 am
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: Recruiting and Retention Bonus
- Replies: 57
- Views: 17779
Re: Recruiting and Retention Bonus
I’m sorry but like most things in Canadian aviation, this retention bonus is a joke. Even with the bonuses counted yearly on top of flair salaries, this is still one of the lowest paying 737 jobs in Canada. Not to mention, you won’t see that money for 3 years only to then pay massive taxes on it. B...
- Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:20 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: Recruiting and Retention Bonus
- Replies: 57
- Views: 17779
Re: Recruiting and Retention Bonus
I’m sorry but like most things in Canadian aviation, this retention bonus is a joke. Even with the bonuses counted yearly on top of flair salaries, this is still one of the lowest paying 737 jobs in Canada. Not to mention, you won’t see that money for 3 years only to then pay massive taxes on it. Bo...
- Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:46 am
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: What's Your Opinion on Flair?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5588
Re: What's Your Opinion on Flair?
Can anybody comment on the recent new hires signing for DEC but showing up for groundschool and being told they have to a wait a year or longer as FOs at FO pay?
