Forced landing straight ahead was the correct option in this case imho.
Here's what happens when you try to keep going:-
https://youtu.be/e633FqBoDh8
Hard to believe these things still happen.
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- Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:51 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Crashed on Takeoff Thread
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3505
- Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:38 am
- Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
- Topic: Pilot Fed up with employee parking
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1760
Re: Pilot Fed up with employee parking
Seems like there's a much bigger issue behind his behaviour.
Hope he's been grounded - should not even be driving imho.
Hope he's been grounded - should not even be driving imho.
- Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:32 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Significant Yaw on Landing
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1590
Re: Significant Yaw on Landing
So when you kick it straight what happens to the rearmost passengers in a 200 ft long aircraft? From the first post:- The flight data was reviewed by engineers at the TSB laboratory: there was no indication of unusual yaw rates or lateral acceleration during the landing. Here's how not to do it:- h...
- Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:40 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Canadian Registered Ted Smith Aerostar Down in Florida
- Replies: 28
- Views: 3861
Re: Canadian Registered Ted Smith Aerostar Down in Florida
Have to be very disciplined when doing this sort of practice. No need to rush. Be careful and methodical. And(assuming one has time - like this flight did) be willing to triple check before making the selection to shutdown. A lot more altitude would also have been a good idea - 3500' is far too low...
- Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:04 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: United Boeing 777 nosedive
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8020
Re: United Boeing 777 nosedive
Report released by the NTSB. https://avherald.com/h?article=50526a09&opt=0 From the report:- 14:50:51– Vertical speed and pitch attitude continued a negative downward trend to reach a maximum of -8,536 feet per minute and -16.74 degrees respectively while at 1,386 feet (radio altitude). 3. The lowes...
- Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:08 pm
- Forum: Forum Suggestion and Announcements
- Topic: rebuild the arrow petition
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7280
Re: rebuild the arrow petition
The biggest issue is that the original design was analog and everything now is digital. Not a simple task to convert an analog platform to a digital platform. You'd need to write software from scratch for example. This is also one of the main reasons why you couldn't build a Saturn V - the ring that...
- Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:18 pm
- Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
- Topic: Refusing an ATC clearance
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3043
Refusing an ATC clearance
Probably not something most people have had to do. I was in Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia (SLVR/VVI) a few weeks ago. First time. Departure was at night. Clearance was a climb on a radial from the VVI VOR to 10 DME maintain 4000. I stopped the aircraft and asked my colleague to advise ATC that we...
- Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:34 pm
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Career perspective based on the long run
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5711
Re: Career perspective based on the long run
So got my answer during the interview. Told me currently around 8 years to have a left seat slot. Social biddings pretty interesting too. Best. On the interview they want you to join - they will always paint a rosy picture. There are no guarantees in this business - nobody can see 8 years into the ...
- Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:21 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Cessna 441 hard landing
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3392
Re: Cessna 441 hard landing
If you’re going to use a high sink rate, do a pre-flare like they do in the shuttle. Aim for short of the runway and round out to a 3 degree. Works amazingly well on lots of different aircraft (with the exception of ones that have stabilized approach criteria). A simple go-around and properly flown...
- Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:23 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Cessna 441 hard landing
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3392
Re: Cessna 441 hard landing
If you’re going to use a high sink rate, do a pre-flare like they do in the shuttle. Aim for short of the runway and round out to a 3 degree. Works amazingly well on lots of different aircraft (with the exception of ones that have stabilized approach criteria). A simple go-around and properly flown...
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:44 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Taking Control on the Ground
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1501
Re: Taking Control on the Ground
Here's a video showing the oversteer technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCfgD3GhNc0
1:45 into the clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCfgD3GhNc0
1:45 into the clip
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:32 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Long Landing Thread
- Replies: 36
- Views: 12229
Re: Long Landing Thread
From an airliner point of view....I wouldn't even necessarily fully agree with the above. One can be landing in the touchdown zone and be almost 3000 feet down the runway. Combine that with some slipperiness at a heavy landing weight and you might be going off the end of the runway. Touching down i...
- Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:28 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Taking Control on the Ground
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1501
Re: Taking Control on the Ground
Is that only an issue in Canada? I was under the impression ICAO markings would keep the whole plane on the taxiway as long as you obey the width restrictions for the taxiways/runways. Wouldn’t bet on that. If anything happens during taxi you’re the one responsible. Airbus states that the oversteer...
- Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:06 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Air Canada 777 Damaged by Ground Vehicle Fire - YUL
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3575
- Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:03 pm
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Air Canada 777 Damaged by Ground Vehicle Fire - YUL
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3575
Re: Air Canada 777 Damaged by Ground Vehicle Fire - YUL
There are a lot of vehicles servicing an aircraft. Each vehicle has an assigned space. This avoids them obstructing other vehicles. There's a lot of stuff moving around an aircraft.
- Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:07 am
- Forum: Accidents, Incidents & Overdue Aircraft
- Topic: Air Canada 777 Damaged by Ground Vehicle Fire - YUL
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3575
Re: Air Canada 777 Damaged by Ground Vehicle Fire - YUL
Good thing it wasn’t an EV. Wait till there’s battery fires around airplanes. A truck full of lithium ion batteries would have burned that plane to the ground since pouring water on them does nothing. Water is how you fight a Lithium battery fire - FAA training video is online. Lithium batteries ne...
- Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:13 am
- Forum: WestJet
- Topic: Career perspective based on the long run
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5711
Re: Career perspective based on the long run
Hi, Apparently no topics covered this area, so let's do it. What are the current and expected timeline from junior 737 FO to 737 CA then to 787 FO and CA? Is there any relevant hope to compress this timeline bidding for certain bases? Do you have any idea about the standard evolution for a long ter...
- Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:53 am
- Forum: Flight Training
- Topic: Student flight test failure affecting instructor record?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2141
Re: Student flight test failure affecting instructor record?
I trained them very well and pre flight test went good and booked the flight test and unfortunately they couldn’t pass the flight test. The best training in the World is worthless if the people being trained don't understand what they are being taught. A big part of training is listening and asking...
- Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:47 am
- Forum: Air Transat
- Topic: Does Transat Still Send 2 Across The Atlantic?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5232
Re: Does Transat Still Send 2 Across The Atlantic?
Not too familiar with the CARs but under EASA we have to concept of 'acclimitized' and 'not acclimitized'. Reporting time will determine maximum duty on the outbound sector. On the return sector crews will have less allowable duty depending on the amount of rest and number of time zones crossed away...
- Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:37 am
- Forum: General Comments
- Topic: Employment gap of 2 years and about to start my pilot training. Need your advice.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 579
Re: Employment gap of 2 years and about to start my pilot training. Need your advice.
There are companies that want complete employment record - Asian companies being one example. Most companies just want to see your qualifications for the job you applied for - the in person interview is just to make sure you're not a complete idiot. If it comes up just be honest about it. These days...