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#1 Post by dude507 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:17 am

Anyone that sees an ad for pilots at DAC should stay away. They allegedly give CARS days off on the road, pay only 50.00 per diems no matter where you are, and have no company credit cards. Pilots pay their hotels on their personal cards and wait for reimbursement. And they get screamed at if they de-ice in bad weather conditions.
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#2 Post by Confliction » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:16 pm

:smt120


I hate when that happens.
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#3 Post by P180 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:42 am

dude507 wrote:Anyone that sees an ad for pilots at DAC should stay away. They allegedly give CARS days off on the road, pay only 50.00 per diems no matter where you are, and have no company credit cards. Pilots pay their hotels on their personal cards and wait for reimbursement. And they get screamed at if they de-ice in bad weather conditions.
Is this the Operator out of Montreal flying CJ3s the black ones.
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#4 Post by Changes in Latitudes » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:10 am

Yup.
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#5 Post by P180 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:48 am

Changes in Latitudes wrote:Yup.
Wow I have a friend that fly,s there. I will have to ask he,s only been there 4 months.
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#6 Post by dude507 » Mon May 22, 2017 10:14 am

DAC is done. Textron repo'd their airplanes.
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#7 Post by FL-280 » Mon May 22, 2017 11:34 am

seriously?
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#8 Post by all_ramped_up » Mon May 22, 2017 6:42 pm

P180 wrote: Is this the Operator out of Montreal flying CJ3s the black ones.
Was a CJ4 and Sovereign+ actually.
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#9 Post by 170 to xray » Mon May 22, 2017 10:27 pm

dude507 wrote:DAC is done. Textron repo'd their airplanes.
Not the version I heard.
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#10 Post by Jet Jockey » Tue May 23, 2017 1:03 pm

170 to xray wrote:
dude507 wrote:DAC is done. Textron repo'd their airplanes.
Not the version I heard.
I would not believe anything when it comes to DAC...

One thing is for sure, the aircrafts were flown back to Cessna.

One story goes they were in talks with Bombardier to get some of their aircrafts and Cessna learned about it and demanded their aircrafts be flown back to them... I find that story weird because if they made proper payments on their leases why would a manufacturer request the aircrafts back.

The other story is, they owed Cessna a lot of money and the aircrafts were flown back to Cessna.

I also hear they might owe other companies some money.
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#11 Post by 170 to xray » Tue May 23, 2017 5:57 pm

I heard they were being replaced with Bombardier product.
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#12 Post by Jet Jockey » Tue May 23, 2017 6:15 pm

170 to xray wrote:I heard they were being replaced with Bombardier product.
I also hear the pilots were told that their jobs were safe until July!
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#13 Post by 170 to xray » Thu May 25, 2017 12:28 pm

The training bond there should make any pilot think twice about applying, It isn't a place I would personally want to work.

I just wasn't sure about the statement, "DAC is done. Textron repo'd their airplanes".
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#14 Post by drivers driver » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:03 am

DAC is done for now, pilots just got laid off apparently.
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#15 Post by dude507 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:34 am

Yes the airplanes were taken back from Cessna because they were owed money. And I heard the same as the other guy, that they owe money at other places. I heard now that they bought a used Challenger 605 and its being painted now.
Good luck with that if they are not going to deice a Challenger like they were on the Cessnas. That will be interesting.
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#16 Post by drivers driver » Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:44 am

From what I heard, what dude507 is saying is all true. What is not being said is the the 680 was a lemon, over 200 snags in 2 years and Cessna did not want to admit it. I am not defending DAC, it is definitely a place I would avoid. For the deice, apparently the owner was not anti icing, but I would not put all crews in that same basket. I also heard the 605 is in paint, crews were laid off and none of them want to wait it out, they are trying to keep cj4 salary on the challenger...
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#17 Post by Jet Jockey » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:19 am

"drivers driver... For the deice, apparently the owner was not anti icing, but I would not put all crews in that same basket."

Better yet... When it was a "private flight" (in other words not on Execaire's OC), the pilots had to send pictures of the wings to the owner prior to de-ice/anti-ice and he then would take the decision to allow or not the aircraft to be de-iced.
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#18 Post by all_ramped_up » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:50 pm

drivers driver wrote:From what I heard, what dude507 is saying is all true. What is not being said is the the 680 was a lemon, over 200 snags in 2 years and Cessna did not want to admit it. I am not defending DAC, it is definitely a place I would avoid. For the deice, apparently the owner was not anti icing, but I would not put all crews in that same basket. I also heard the 605 is in paint, crews were laid off and none of them want to wait it out, they are trying to keep cj4 and 680 salary on the challenger...
Yeah, while the Sovereign was a nice new bird it was a bit of a snag bag. At least it's decent to work on... also showed how dedicated Cessna customer support was.

They had a very senior Tech up babysitting it for a bit when I was there.
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