YYZ SLOTS.....Again

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Yes it is ridiculous. But it sounds like you should have no issue getting in. Just may not be able to leave...kinda like Hotel California :rock:
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Will be interesting seeing how the different ownership groups react to the slots, particularly the tardy ones.

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The real question should be why. It was determined that the terminal can handle roughly 20-30 fewer movements per hour than the runways. What is the point in restricting aircraft that aren't actually affecting terminal, and therefore airport, throughput? During known peak times or times of weather, sure, implement a delay program or ctot scheme. Other than that, business aviation seems to be the GTAA scapegoat.
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A-CDM Trial was delayed indefinitely today due to lack of support from users. They still want us to comply with the OCS slot reservation even though the AIC 1/19 is to be rescinded.

IMO this is the GTAA trying to make an airline shoe fit on a GA/BA foot. No thanks.

This was made worse by the fact that a two day webinar was put on by the GTAA and they were happy enough to show up late for both events.

The CBAA seems to have accepted this folly as law even though pretty much all of its member will reject it outright.
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Any links to official info?
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Contact Dean Wright C.M;
Associate Director Gating & Airport Flow
Greater Toronto Airports Authority | Aviation Services
P.O. Box 6031, 3111 Convair Drive, Toronto AMF, Ontario, L5P 1B2
Phone (416) 776-4062| Cell (416) 557-5849

A-cdm@gtaa.ca
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I was with Chartright the last time this was implemented and it sucked balls. And then overnight it was gone. Does anyone know what happened? Did some of the billionaires lay the law down?
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GA being targeted again

https://torontopearson.com/aro/#

Apparently if you are not based in yyz you can only request a slot 72hrs prior. I understand that if you contact Skycharter, they can get you a slot 30days out.
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Disregard that last comment. Now apparently operators must apply on their own. If not based in yyz you can only apply 72hrs in advance. Kitchener is gonna be busy again!
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:45 am
Disregard that last comment. Now apparently operators must apply on their own. If not based in yyz you can only apply 72hrs in advance. Kitchener is gonna be busy again!
Jetport is gonna start charging 500 dollar overnight ramp fees again.

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One week into this bs now.
Anyone have any trouble?
We have had to get a few slots and then amend a few slots and no issues yet
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Seems the slots are voluntary until 23Apr. Might have more issues after that time.
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It would appear the CBAA and GTAA are having open and engaged discussions about the process. Anthony Norejko is providing continuous updates on the CBAA member forums.

Still more questions than answers regarding slot tolerances or penalties.
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And now Montreal is also getting into the act of restrictions due to construction...

The aéroport de Montreal (ADM) has informed us that during the phase 1 rehabilitation of runway 24R/06L from March 18th, 2019 to June 30th, 2019 there will be a general aviation ban in effect for all arrivals between the hours of 16:00 to 20:00 local. In initial discussions with the ADM last year this was not forecasted to be required however in a recent meeting NAV Canada insisted that a ban be out in place to protect the movements of the commercial airliners.
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Jet Jockey wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:36 am
And now Montreal is also getting into the act of restrictions due to construction...

The aéroport de Montreal (ADM) has informed us that during the phase 1 rehabilitation of runway 24R/06L from March 18th, 2019 to June 30th, 2019 there will be a general aviation ban in effect for all arrivals between the hours of 16:00 to 20:00 local. In initial discussions with the ADM last year this was not forecasted to be required however in a recent meeting NAV Canada insisted that a ban be out in place to protect the movements of the commercial airliners.
Do you have a link for that or is from the CBAA?
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Unreal. I guess Canada IS open for business 🙄
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CL-Skadoo! wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:55 am
Jet Jockey wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:36 am
And now Montreal is also getting into the act of restrictions due to construction...

The aéroport de Montreal (ADM) has informed us that during the phase 1 rehabilitation of runway 24R/06L from March 18th, 2019 to June 30th, 2019 there will be a general aviation ban in effect for all arrivals between the hours of 16:00 to 20:00 local. In initial discussions with the ADM last year this was not forecasted to be required however in a recent meeting NAV Canada insisted that a ban be out in place to protect the movements of the commercial airliners.
Do you have a link for that or is from the CBAA?

Sorry I don't... I came from the person in charge of our Dispatch/Ops centre.
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