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 Post subject: Runners/Joggers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:07 am 
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Any of you guys into running/jogging much? I do it whenever I can, I'm not designed for it per se (short stumpy legs), but I do enjoy it, especially outdoors. I don't enjoy treadmills due to the monotony of it.

How are your 5k times? I am generally happy if I can keep it under 30min, but I am really not improving like I did when I first started running a few years back (I've been in and out of it due to a wounded foot). I gave up on really worrying about my times, and am trying for distance, 7-8km seems to be just fine but after that I start to get bored and even if I have paced myself well with energy left, I have had enough. I generally get out 3-4 times a week, depending on my schedule.

Any running tips/inspiration from the pros would be welcomed!


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Changes, I love running! It's a great way to get in a workout without taking up too much time. I can get dressed, out the door, run, back and showered in an hour - much easier (for me) that going off to the gym. Not to mention, I hate the concept of driving somewhere to go for exercise! I last about 5 minutes on a treadmill, but I can see their usefulness in a place like Winnipeg in January :lol: I used to ride my bike a lot, but it's completely impractical while on the road...

I've never had too many problems with boredom, as I'm trying to run on trails as much as possible (also helps to ward off injuries) I've found that switching off mentally on a trail usually ends up in a face-plant, courtesy of a tree root!
Perhaps another way to keep yourself interested would be to get focused on a 25 min 5K? - knocking your 6min/km down to 5min... Then you'll have a focus on what you want to achieve on any particular run, and a grand plan in mind. Certainly, I find that when I concentrate my thoughts (some call it visualisation!) on how I'm going to feel/think when I am on the home stretch of my goal race keeps me focused when my legs are getting heavy. I find it harder to get out the door if I've got nothing specific to do in terms of today's run other than just running for 45 minutes, say... a specific plan for what I am going to do on that day is a real motivator.

Get your foot sorted ASAP - injuries tend to breed injuries, as you take a week/month off to recuperate, and then jump back in as strong as you left off, and another injury crops up.. But then, (personally) being 40+, means you can't take the workload that you did in your 30's..

!!!STRETCH!!! I've found that if someone had beaten that into me earlier, it would have warded off some injuries also..

Times? Well, I haven't run a 5k in about 5 years, but I did a 1:30 1/2 marathon a few years back, and a sub-40 10K last April.. I think that those numbers might well start to get bigger in the forthcoming years, tho! Time will tell..

HAve fun!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:54 pm 
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Although I generally agree they're not as rewarding as a real run, treadmills have there place in a training program. Sometimes the weather just sucks too much to get outside. Get yourself a good music player and some proper open headphones (not earbuds), that'll help.

As for tips- buy the Running Room book, it's pretty good and will answer most of the questions and give you some training programs to follow. My best 5K is the Pearson runway run which I've done in a shade over 22 minutes. My best half marathon is 1:45.


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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Here's a special question, how are you supposed to resume normal breathing after running? Is it wrong to try and take deep breaths? What if you don't like rapid breathing because you think you feel out of breath?


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:?: Having a little trouble with this, Sheila. What do you mean? You're supposed to breathe hard after running - it's exercise.
However, I start off with a 5 minute walk, trying to speed up the pace so that by the time 6 minutes rolls around, I'm ready to start running, and it's not that big a shock for my system. Likewise, I try and slow down at the end of my run, and get my breathing rate down, then finish off with a 5 minute walk slowing off, so that by the time I stop, I'm not out of breath at all..


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:56 pm 
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Most people new to running go out WAY TOO HARD when they start a running program. North Shore is bang on with a good slow warm up and warm down. Elite runners only do 2-3 hard runs per week or else they risk burn out or injury. If you are going at a pace where it is difficult to talk then you are going way too hard. It will feel slow but eventually you will get faster as your body gets fitter. Running is affordable and your best bang for your buck in terms of limited time to exercise: elite marathoners train 10-14 hours per week, elite cyclists train 30-40 hours per week.


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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Can't agree more about the risk to injury, I've messed up my ankle/foot and it has translated into some decent knee pain. This is all due to pushing it too far and being too cheap to invest in a good pair of shoes.


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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Most people new to running go out WAY TOO HARD when they start a running program. North Shore is bang on with a good slow warm up and warm down. Elite runners only do 2-3 hard runs per week or else they risk burn out or injury. If you are going at a pace where it is difficult to talk then you are going way too hard. It will feel slow but eventually you will get faster as your body gets fitter. Running is affordable and your best bang for your buck in terms of limited time to exercise: elite marathoners train 10-14 hours per week, elite cyclists train 30-40 hours per week.


Indeed! If you're just starting out, Sheila, go out the front door, walk for 5 minutes, then a further 4, and the 5th, jog. Repeat the 4min walk/1min run for 5 cycles in total, followed by a 5 min cool down walk, every other day for a week or so. The next week, go to a 3 min walk/2 min run, again for 5 cycles, beginning and ending with a 5 minute walk. Week 3, you'll get up to 2 walk/3run; week 4 sees you at 1w, 4r, and the 5th week should see you running all 5 minutes. Then, if you want to run longer add 5 minutes every week until you get to your duration... Some people alternate strength training on their non-running days, but always take one day off to be a complete couch potato, as your body will need the rest. (That's the day you get to splurge on your diet and eat ice cream, chicken wings, chips etc.. that you've been avoiding all the rest of the week :wink: ..)

If any of those jumps from, say 2 mins run to 3 mins, seem too high, then stay at the lower level for another few days, until you become accustomed to the workload.

Also, as CIL says: invest in a good pair of shoes.


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:07 am 
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Changes in Latitudes wrote:
Can't agree more about the risk to injury, I've messed up my ankle/foot and it has translated into some decent knee pain. This is all due to pushing it too far and being too cheap to invest in a good pair of shoes.

Good on ya CIL for this thread. I should be doing more of this. Hell, I should get off the couch of 935 and walk more. But you've got me thinking. The wife is starting jogging now and she won't let me forget it (like most other things we don't agree on) but she is looking great for it. That alone should be an inspiration. Damn, now I AM going to have to start walking more and start jogging this summer.

Are you sure the ankle and knee injuries weren't from getting into and out of the seat in our retired ride? :D

Thanks for keep it real.

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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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If anything, ETTW, it was going from that wonderful bird to cramming myself into the current ride. Thankfully my body resembles a bumpy mound of play dough that can form around shapes at will.

Now that you'll be running, I simply must ponder: could tofu be far behind?
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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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Sounds to me like you've hit a textbook exercise plateau. Happens with any form of exercise from running to weight training. After weeks of repetition, our bodies get used to what we subject them to and are able to perform the action with less effort and exertion. To break through a plateau you have to change things up so your body has to work harder again. Change up intensity, duration, schedule or even the exercise itself. Replace one run with a shorter, faster one. Another with a longer one. Try throwing some swimming or biking or weight training into the mix.


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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Thanks North Shore that sounds like a decent routine I can try and the breathing issue I will walk through. The rapid breathing was a shock to me that's all. Someday I may even do a "hard run". Right now a hard run for me will be a light jog on the tread mill, ha ha.

Oh, I heard we can have our best fitness in our forties.


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^ Indeed! I'm 44, and faster/in better shape now than I ever was in high school...


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North Shore wrote:
^ Indeed! I'm 44, and faster/in better shape now than I ever was in high school...


And you still have trouble making alerts!! :P :P


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 Post subject: Re: Runners/Joggers
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I better qualify my previous post since I have been admonished by North Shore in a PM for being a smart a$$.

He is very punctual.......whenever I drive him to work.
And yes he is very quick........to avoid any responsibility.
You would never know he is 44......since he acts like he's 8.
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Sorry. didn't mean to hijack this post.


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