Air India ground crew sucked into engine

[grimey]

http://m.independent.ie/world-news/asia ... 95192.html

[PilotDAR]

As written, I don't buy it. If you're standing near the inlet of a large jet engine which is not running, and the pilot "switches it on", you have time to get out of the way before there's enough suction to pull you in. It's a very dumb place to be at all, but it does warn you with a lot of noise and moving blades.... There's a bit more to this...

[Chris M]

I thought the same when I heard this on the radio this morning. They don't say what aircraft it was but even the smallest engines take many seconds to get up to the speeds it would take to swallow a person and give LOTS of warning in the process.

Come to think of it, does the average jet engine even generate enough suction at idle to lift a person off their feet? I know it would be an unpleasant place to be but never been there myself so I don't know how violent it would be.

Suicide?

[grimey]

Come to think of it, does the average jet engine even generate enough suction at idle to lift a person off their feet? I know it would be an unpleasant place to be but never been there myself so I don't know how violent it would be.

Suicide?

Dunno about the A319, but this happened on an aircraft carrier years ago:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5jxcSY1AwrM

The guy survived essentially unhurt, either his helmet or something from his belt pooched the engine though, iirc.

More detail:http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Air-Ind ... 208797.cms

[200hr Wonder]

Will the difference with the A6 on the aircraft carrier is that he was under military power for the cat shot. So he was at full after burner and moving a lot more air than a high bypass at idle. So yeah I don't buy just randomly got sucked in.

[photofly]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ngine.html

[looproll]

As written, I don't buy it. If you're standing near the inlet of a large jet engine which is not running, and the pilot "switches it on", you have time to get out of the way before there's enough suction to pull you in. It's a very dumb place to be at all, but it does warn you with a lot of noise and moving blades.... There's a bit more to this...

Having worked in this exact place for many years (ramp, near engines), I think it would be quite easy to be sucked in. You're wearing ear protection in a very noisy environment. Some people wear ear plugs and muffs. The APU is usually running, which sounds just like a jet engine, so you get used to it. There are other aircraft running nearby. Dumb place to be? The front pit of many aircraft put you very close to the engine, and if you move from the front to the rear, you will likely walk right by the inlet also.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/01/16 ... rport.html

[looproll]

In this case a very experienced mechanic was sucked in (albeit at 70% power):


http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment/_l ... 056&akey=1

[boeingboy]

Looproll - nobody is saying it can't or doesn't happen.....just that as it's written - it's not very likely. Theres lots of time to move if the pilots are just cranking the engine. When the start valve first opens - it's enough to make anyone move no matter how many earplugs they are wearing. And simply standing at the nosegear is not going to suck you in either. So it's a poorly written article at best.

[Strobes]

AvHerald now reports that pilots were in a hurry and started moving forward before getting the all clear from ground crew.

http://avherald.com/h?article=490e9d05&opt=0

[plhought]

If the beacon's on, don't approach the aircraft. Pretty simple.

[Bede]

My dad was a mechanic with Swiss Air back in the '70's. Someone got sucked into a DC10 engine during a ground run when he was there. From my recollection, the guy got seriously hurt, but wasn't killed.

[tbaylx]

If the beacon's on, don't approach the aircraft. Pretty simple.

There would be a lot of aircraft stuck at the gates worldwide if no ground crew ever approached an aircraft for push back with the beacon on....

[linecrew]

If the beacon's on, don't approach the aircraft. Pretty simple.

There would be a lot of aircraft stuck at the gates worldwide if no ground crew ever approached an aircraft for push back with the beacon on....

Right...pretty sure it was intuitive that the implication was to avoid the engines with the spinny/noisy/choppy bits. Beacon deaths are relatively infrequent.

[boeingboy]

Us rampies get together once a year and nominate two guys to sacrifice to the Pilot Gods to keep them appeased.

We all thank our Indian Brother for keeping the rest of us safe.

Your an asshole.

[thirdtimecharm]

Us rampies get together once a year and nominate two guys to sacrifice to the Pilot Gods to keep them appeased.

We all thank our Indian Brother for keeping the rest of us safe.

Your an asshole.

"YOU'RE an asshole"

Grammar, man, grammar.

[looproll]

I'm an asshole too because I thought the sacrifice comment was pretty funny. Yes, it sucks that someone died, but those with a morbid sense of humour will laugh. Of all the ways to go...

I suppose you're on the streets of Calcutta right now helping the lepers?

[ogopogo]

Your an asshole.

"YOU'RE an asshole"

Grammar, man, grammar.

+1
Of all the forums I participate in (guitar, cars, wristwatches, tractors, fountain pens) I have to say I see the most creative spelling and grammar right here on AvCanada.

"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

Oh well, not important anyway.

[Chris M]

Us rampies get together once a year and nominate two guys to sacrifice to the Pilot Gods to keep them appeased.

We all thank our Indian Brother for keeping the rest of us safe.

I chuckled. At least we'll burn in hell together.

Who's the second nominee?

Your an asshole.

"YOU'RE an asshole"

Grammar, man, grammar.

+1
Of all the forums I participate in (guitar, cars, wristwatches, tractors, fountain pens) I have to say I see the most creative spelling and grammar right here on AvCanada.

"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

Oh well, not important anyway.

The misunderstood phrases are what really get me. "For all intensive purposes"




Back on subject though, sounds like the pilots just ran the poor guy over. At least it was quick.

[I_Drive_Planes]

Us rampies get together once a year and nominate two guys to sacrifice to the Pilot Gods to keep them appeased.

We all thank our Indian Brother for keeping the rest of us safe.

Your an asshole.

I need to get as much use out of that one as I can in the next 13 days!

So far it's been at least once per day, every day.