Small note in CFS gets overlooked

[pelmet]

The pilot of C-GONF, a Cessna 152 operated by Southern Interior Flight Centre, was conducting
night circuits at Salmon Arm, BC (CZAM). On climb out, the aircraft collided with trees at
approximately 2800 feet ASL, about 1.5 nautical miles west of the airport. The aircraft was
destroyed but the pilot received only minor injuries. The Canada Flight Supplement indicates all
circuits at CZAM are to the east of the airport, recommends pilots fly runway heading to 3000 feet
ASL before commencing turns, and cautions that only pilots familiar with local terrain should use
the aerodrome during hours of darkness.

[iflyforpie]

Bye bye ONF. Glad nobody was killed.

[The Raven]

pelmet,

Can you provide a reference to this incident. Where do I find the report?

Thanks,

The Raven

[godsrcrazy]

2016P0416 Occurrence Category(ies):
Other
Unknown or undetermined
Occurrence Information
Occurrence Type:Accident Occurrence Date:2016-04-02
Occurrence Time:0000 Z Day Or Night:night-time
Fatalities:0 Injuries:1
Canadian Aerodrome ID:CZAM Aerodrome Name:SALMON ARM BC (CZAM)
Occurrence Location:SALMON ARM BC (CZAM)
Province:British Columbia TC Region:Pacific Region
Country:Canada World Area:North America
Reported By:
NAV CANADA
Transportation Safety Board of Canada
AOR Number:199068-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation:Class 5 TSB Occurrence No:A16P0054
Occurrence Event Information
Aircraft Information
Registration Mark:GONF Foreign Registration:
Flight #: Flight Rule:VFR
Aircraft Category:Aeroplane Country of Registration:Canada
Make:CESSNA Model:152
Year Built:1978 Amateur Built:No
Engine Make:AVCO LYCOMING Engine Model:O-235-L2C
Engine Type:Reciprocating Gear Type:Land
Phase of Flight:Climb Damage:Destroyed
Owner:Southern Interior Flight Centre (1993) Ltd
Operator:SOUTHERN INTERIOR FLIGHT CENTRE (1993) LTD. (6986)
Operator Type:Commercial CARs Subpart:406
Aircraft Event Information
Collision with terrain
SAR/comm search
Occurrence Summary
Date Entered:2016-04-04
Narrative:
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) reported a crash on Mount Ida just south of Salmon Arm, BC (CZAM). A Southern Interior Flight Centre Ltd. Cessna 152 (C-GONF) on a local flight from Kelowna, BC (CYLW) was on flight plan with an en route stop in CZAM. RCMP and search and rescue (SAR) confirmed that the aircraft was C-GONF and that the pilot suffered minor injuries. Minimal impact on operations.
O.P.I.: Further Action Required:No
Occurrence Summary
Date Entered:2016-04-06
Narrative:
UPDATE: TSB#A16P0054: The pilot of C-GONF, a Cessna 152 operated by Southern Interior Flight Centre, was conducting night circuits at Salmon Arm, BC (CZAM). On climb out, the aircraft collided with trees at approximately 2800 feet ASL, about 1.5 nautical miles west of the airport. The aircraft was destroyed but the pilot received only minor injuries. The Canada Flight Supplement indicates all circuits at CZAM are to the east of the airport, recommends pilots fly runway heading to 3000 feet ASL before commencing turns, and cautions that only pilots familiar with local terrain should use the aerodrome during hours of darkness.
O.P.I.: Further Action Required:No
Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change.

[Rookie50]

Bye bye ONF. Glad nobody was killed.

Yeah. Night accidents often have a sad ending.

[phillyfan]

Nobody should ever fly in a C-152 at night. Especially around trees and hills.

[CpnCrunch]

Nobody should ever fly in a C-152 at night. Especially around trees and hills.

What's the point of your message?

[KAG]

A152 is a great little plane. Nothing wrong with flying it at night, just don't turn the wrong way over hills you can't see.

[trampbike]

Nobody should ever fly in a C-152 at night. Especially around trees and hills.

I'm sure if you'd fly above trees and hills instead of around them, you'd be just fine at night in a 152

[iflyforpie]

First time I ever went into ZAM was at night With no night rating (was doing my solo night X country).

Maybe it's because I was flying a 172.

[Dizzy D]

About 9ish years ago I was doing night circuits in ONF in Salmon Arm. Good times. I must have stayed on the right side...

[phillyfan]

"What's the point of your message?"


Seemed pretty clear to me?

[CpnCrunch]

"What's the point of your message?"


Seemed pretty clear to me?

I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt. Taken literally your message is pretty idiotic IMO, so I thought perhaps you were being sarcastic.

There's no more danger in flying a 152 at night than any other plane. The whole point is that you separate yourself from the hills and trees by a suitable margin (which implies that you *must* be familiar with the airport). If you want some more safety, use synthetic vision.

[Checkgear77]

I learned to fly in GONF, she was a fine airplane and always served me well especially when I was doing night circuits in mountainous terrain. Sad to hear of her loss. I loved those clear moon lit nights by yourself in the mountains. Shout out to the great instructors I had at southern interior 14 years ago, they did there best under tough working conditions and having to put up with students like me.

[flysportstar]

First time I ever went into ZAM was at night With no night rating (was doing my solo night X country).

Maybe it's because I was flying a 172.

Solo night cross country????? What flight school or instructor would let anyone do that?
It is certainly not a requirement under CAR421.42

Please explain.

[photofly]

First time I ever went into ZAM was at night With no night rating (was doing my solo night X country).

Maybe it's because I was flying a 172.

Solo night cross country????? What flight school or instructor would let anyone do that?
It is certainly not a requirement under CAR421.42

Please explain.

You don't need any solo night cross-country time for a night rating, but it's not forbidden, either.

[I_Drive_Planes]

Solo night cross country????? What flight school or instructor would let anyone do that?
It is certainly not a requirement under CAR421.42

Mine did. I didn't ram a hill.

[iflyforpie]

Mine did.

I couldn't remember if it was needed or not. I needed all of the x country I could get to get my IFR done.

Maybe it was an unnecessary risk.... but our flight school lost 0 planes compared to them losing.... how many over the years? (The Maule on floats, ZDD, SKK, QDW, HYG (the plane I soloed in) .... now ONF. Have I missed any?

[photofly]

Ok now it's my turn for confusion... why does a solo night cross country flight help towards IFR?

Edit: oh, right, yes: 50 hours XC required.

[Donald]

Every single time building student should at least get 25 hours night X-country, for their eventual ATPL.