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CF18 crash @ Cold Lake

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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/edmo ... -1.3871270

A CF18 has reportedly crashed near Cold Lake and they are looking for the pilot.
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Just read on ctv.ca that pilot was killed.

Brutal.
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It appears they must have found the pilot, as don't know how they would know he didn't survive otherwise, RIP!
"A CF-18 fighter jet has crashed near Cold Lake, Alberta.

The pilot did not survive, according to an RCAF commander.

Canadian Forces said on Twitter it has dispatched a helicopter crew to the Cold Lake Training Area to begin the search for the wreckage.

A military spokesperson said the plane was based out of Canadian Forces Base Cold Lake.

Officials declined to provide further details on the identity of the pilot, saying that officials were still in the process of notifying next of kin."
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I thank those that go into harms way to look after the rest of us. Zipping around in a ground attack fighter has always had a fair amount of risk , even in training. There is a steady toll.... Condolences to family and friends
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Canada has lost one of our protectors and I wish that my words could provide some comfort.

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Very sad to hear. My sympathies go out to the pilot's family, friends and comrades in Cold Lake.
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One of the best Canadians gone today,
My heart grieves for those he left behind.
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My condolences for this tragedy and for all those affected. Your service is not forgotten.
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I assume this was a single seat, but does anybody know for sure if it was single or dual...if so, did the other crewman eject?
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Mick G wrote:I assume this was a single seat, but does anybody know for sure if it was single or dual...if so, did the other crewman eject?
Apparently it was a single seat jet according to a pr type for the airforce.
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ZBBYLW wrote:
Mick G wrote:I assume this was a single seat, but does anybody know for sure if it was single or dual...if so, did the other crewman eject?
Apparently it was a single seat jet according to a pr type for the airforce.

Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
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Kitzbuhel wrote:Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
That seems unusual. I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival, if it was fully opened high enough AGL.

Is it cold enough in Cold Lake right now for it to be possible the pilot succumbed to the elements?

In any case, sad to hear... Condolences to any friends and family who may be watching.
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AirFrame wrote:
Kitzbuhel wrote:Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
That seems unusual. I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival, if it was fully opened high enough AGL.

Is it cold enough in Cold Lake right now for it to be possible the pilot succumbed to the elements?

In any case, sad to hear... Condolences to any friends and family who may be watching.
The CLAWR and surrounding area is forested. Escaping the airplane safely is no guarantee you will land safely, and it's not known if the pilot was injured somehow before ejection. Have to wait for the report.
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AirFrame wrote:
Kitzbuhel wrote:Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
That seems unusual. I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival, if it was fully opened high enough AGL.

Is it cold enough in Cold Lake right now for it to be possible the pilot succumbed to the elements?

In any case, sad to hear... Condolences to any friends and family who may be watching.
They have gyrostabalizing (I believe the name is) Seats so even if you're off axis at low AGL you should be safe in that circumstance. Take a look at the YQL air display crash. Was super low and banked heavily and he had a successful outcome.

Very unfortunate to hear he punched out without a good outcome. I wish his family best wishes.
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AirFrame wrote:
Kitzbuhel wrote:Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
That seems unusual. I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival, if it was fully opened high enough AGL.

Is it cold enough in Cold Lake right now for it to be possible the pilot succumbed to the elements?

In any case, sad to hear... Condolences to any friends and family who may be watching.
It isn't very cold right now no. They got there pretty quick. Nothing but speculation at this time as to what went wrong. Very sad time for all.
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Kitzbuhel wrote:
ZBBYLW wrote:
Mick G wrote:I assume this was a single seat, but does anybody know for sure if it was single or dual...if so, did the other crewman eject?
Apparently it was a single seat jet according to a pr type for the airforce.

Single Seat. Good chute reported, found deceased on SAR arrival.
Lets not jump to conclusions before the official report is released.
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AirFrame wrote:I thought a chute ride was almost guaranteed survival,
It never is, it's just a better option than riding the plane in. An article I just read puts the survival rate at about 92%. However, the same article then states a 1 in 3 chance of spinal fracture among other serious injuries. The following article goes into a case study of injuries during an ejection event: http://emj.bmj.com/content/17/5/371.full
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An ex RAF guy I worked with said "you only pull the handles because you know you'll die if you don't".

I think that sums the ejection seat option pretty clearly.

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