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( A positive thing ) Taking too many unnecessary chances whilst there may be indicative of a bad cowboy ! Do I know whether the DC-3T pilots were bad cowboys or took unnecessary risks? I cannot know, I was just going off the report !
My definition of cowboy mentality is doing something above and beyond the norms of an accepted standard with acceptable limits of safety. I have been a cowboy on occasion, in the past in my 50 years in aviation, but doing something safely to near my limits for me may seem really foolish or "cowboy attitude" to someone else. My side hobby is hang gliding, which is both a very safe sport and a very dangerous one ,,,, I choose to be conservative when hang gliding and it is pretty safe for me.
You fit MY definition of a good cowboy, You have taken an airplane designed for the purpose and taken it to near its limits AND your limits SAFELY for numerous times !! Is it riskier than sitting in a chair watching red bull? YES, Is it an accepted and manageable risk for YOU? YES ! An armchair quarterback sits in a chair and eats food and wishes he were on the field, A true quarterback is out in the action, KNOWING the risks and managing it as best as possible under the conditions ! An IDIOT takes a plane that is not approved for a maneuver and does the maneuver at low altitude without the training or experience and often enough dies ( Buzz jobs)By the way I spent eight years as an airshow pilot all over Europe and I can assure you that if the examiners who issued my air display license had even the slightest suspicion that I was a cowboy they would not have issued nor renewed my license.
Were the wheel-skis in the wheels down position? ( more stress on the airframe if hitting hidden hard drifts) or wheels up position ( possibly less control on hilly terrain ) ?
Of course, your initial question was a loaded one !Like I expected you don't have a clue about operating wheel / ski DC3's.
I would not be surprised if I have more time in the Arctic flying DC3's on wheel skis than you have total time.
No, I think crazyaviator explains it best.You may want to change your name to By-standers.
How many CFIT/ blind valley/ out-climbing mountain accidents have their been in the past 30 years?The occurrence aircraft was equipped with an FLTA system, and the initiation of a climb approximately 45 seconds prior to impact suggests that the crew might have responded to a terrain warning, but aircraft climb performance was not sufficient to avoid the terrain.
Lolcrazyaviator wrote:You fit MY definition of a good cowboy
Yeah, I think I can have a sense of cowboys good and bad, by the condition of the livestock, though I doubt they affect aircraft much. As none of the references to COWBOY in earlier posts further define whether those were "good" or "bad" type cowboys being associated with the flying, I really don't know what to make of them now.because now you are trying to categorize Cowboys into good and bad
Well, funny you should mention that! There is an international policy that, with one exception, everything which is taken into Antarctica, is taken back out - right down to the sewage I've been told. That exception actually is airplanes, if crashed, they may remain, after being sanitized. They seem to be taken out too, for the most part - even a US Coast Guard C-130 which had been there for decades. And, aside from samples of ice, the removal of anything from Antarctica is also very strictly regulated.pack out what you bring in !!
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