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"C-FNND, a Boeing 777-233LR aircraft operated by Air Canada, was conducting flight ACA016 from Hong Kong/Chek Lap Kok Intl, China (VHHH) to Toronto/Lester B. Pearson Intl, ON (CYYZ). When the flight was approximately 88 nautical miles East of Fort McMurray, AB, the flight crew declared PAN PAN due to degraded communications as a result of fluid spillage onto the centre pedestal. Controller-Pilot Data Link Communications (CPDLC) and Airborne Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) were not affected. At least one Audio Control Panel (ACP) remained functional, and all VHF radios continued to receive for the balance of the flight. The flight crew elected to continue to CYYZ. The number 1, 2, and 3 ACPs, along with the ATC control panel, were replaced."

It is a good idea to be particularly careful with the drinks. And the flight attendant can be the biggest culprit. Not only wanting to pass a drink over the center console(which is strictly forbidden where I work and adhered to) but I know of two cases where the F/A tripped and spilled the drink on the panel. One time was while in a dark cockpit rushing in order to comply with a "3 second rule" for cockpit door opening.
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The real problem comes when they start mixing the drinks over the pedestal for you :rolleyes:
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Get a travel mug.

Not as good for the mid flight martini though.
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Lets be honest. Pilots need sippy cups.
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Indeed . If memory serves correctly, Keewaitin supplies the pilots with the 'Contigo' spill resistant cup which is the only drink vessel allowed in the cockpit.
Can anyone verify this?
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I totally thought this was going to be about a pilot getting roofied

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Meddler wrote:I totally thought this was going to be about a pilot getting roofied

:rolleyes:
The way pilot news has been the last little while I say just give it a couple weeks...
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Just shows why you need to be really, really careful......

"G-TCCF, an Airbus 330-200 aircraft operated by Thomas Cook Airlines, was conducting Condor
Airlines flight CFG116 from Frankfurt/Rhein-Main (EDDF), Germany to Cancún Intl (MMUN),
Mexico. During cruise flight, liquid was inadvertently spilled onto the number 1 Audio Control Panel
(ACP), causing all lights on the unit to illuminate. Initially, the number 1 ACP, then the number 2
ACP became hot, and began to emit a burnt electrical odour. At approximate position
56°03'N/031°11'W, smoke started to come out from the number 1 ACP. The flight crew donned
their oxygen masks, initiated a diversion to Shannon Intl (EINN), Ireland, and sent a MAYDAY
message using ACARS. The flight crew jettisoned fuel in order to achieve maximum landing
weight, and the aircraft landed at EINN without further incident. 1 passenger and 4 crew members
were attended to by paramedics and sent to local medical facilities for a precautionary assessment
before being released."
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Travel mugs with a lid or gtfo.

100% the pilots fault, spilly pants.
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Just use a regular water bottle. No fancy cups needed. And even if you do spill, its just water that dries up. Electronics still wont like it, but not as bad as coffee or sticky stuff.
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pelmet wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:18 pm Just shows why you need to be really, really careful......

"G-TCCF, an Airbus 330-200 aircraft operated by Thomas Cook Airlines, was conducting Condor
Airlines flight CFG116 from Frankfurt/Rhein-Main (EDDF), Germany to Cancún Intl (MMUN),
Mexico. During cruise flight, liquid was inadvertently spilled onto the number 1 Audio Control Panel
(ACP), causing all lights on the unit to illuminate. Initially, the number 1 ACP, then the number 2
ACP became hot, and began to emit a burnt electrical odour. At approximate position
56°03'N/031°11'W, smoke started to come out from the number 1 ACP. The flight crew donned
their oxygen masks, initiated a diversion to Shannon Intl (EINN), Ireland, and sent a MAYDAY
message using ACARS. The flight crew jettisoned fuel in order to achieve maximum landing
weight, and the aircraft landed at EINN without further incident. 1 passenger and 4 crew members
were attended to by paramedics and sent to local medical facilities for a precautionary assessment
before being released."
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _09-19.pdf


Don't know the best way to handle a situation in this aircraft type where the cups are too small for the cupholders except to say be a bit paranoid and hold the cup steady on the table in the center of the table and make an SMS report about the situation. There seem to be some aviation flask/non-spillable mugs on the market as well. Anybody using them?
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