Embarrassing Oops

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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#51 Post by fish4life » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:34 pm

if the crew didn't get the warning until FL240 then she must have been a pretty tight airplane to hold the cabin that long
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#52 Post by justwork » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:03 am

fish4life wrote:if the crew didn't get the warning until FL240 then she must have been a pretty tight airplane to hold the cabin that long
Or set to min? I can't remember exactly but I thought on the Q the bleeds could be set to on/off but also min, norm, max?
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#53 Post by AnotherOldtimer » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:59 am

AuxBatOn wrote:
bobcaygeon wrote: Just goes to show you what lower levels of experience brings you.
What??!!! You have got lots of time? like 500hrs...
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#54 Post by Cliff Jumper » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:24 pm

AnotherOldtimer wrote:
AuxBatOn wrote:
bobcaygeon wrote: Just goes to show you what lower levels of experience brings you.
What??!!! You have got lots of time? like 500hrs...
I have no horse in this race, but that comeback was nine months after the fact.

And your second post ever.

Might need to take it down 10 to 15% there squirly Dan.
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#55 Post by swordfish » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:31 pm

There are several checks in ANY pressurized aircraft to check that it's pressurizing normally. Most have a check after takeoff in case you took off bleeds-off, then thru 10,000' to see that it IS pressurizing, then in the cruise check to see that the cabin agrees with the controller.

And is a Q400 able to hold a cabin of 10,000 at FL240 with the bleeds off? (or whatever the warning is at...) That is hard to believe.
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#56 Post by Jet Jockey » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:56 am

crazyaviator wrote:How much pressurization is still available at 24000 feet with the switches off OR was the cabin so well sealed that it took that long to reach cabin warning altitude ? ( kudos to Bombardier/ maint if that is the case ) I worked on the dash at city express tooooo long ago :D

Ha! A City Express fellow from the past! Flew the Dash 7 for them in the late 80s before moving on to better things.
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Re: Embarrassing Oops

#57 Post by crazyaviator » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:11 am

Ha! A City Express fellow from the past! Flew the Dash 7 for them in the late 80s before moving on to better things.
My memory is quite dim but when Arkia ? airlines maintenance were "helping" the City Express AME s after the purchase of the Dash 7 A/C , One day a Dash 7 came in from Montreal and I did a walk-around ( I was an apprentice AME at the time ) I grabbed onto the #3 or #4 prop and moved it ( It had been replaced previous to the flight ) You could pivot the whole prop assembly many inches with your fingertips !!!!! Turns out the Arkia guys installed a military spec prop on the plane and the flange did not mate up.! On another occasion, on the night shift as time was running out, one of the Arkia guys ( RM ? ) took MANY pages of the inspection report and signed off every line item even though no work was done !

On another occasion, We brought a Dash 8 into the hangar and a fellow apprentice turned on the infrared heaters while we went to the old terminal building. When we came back, we could smell a burnt paint odor! The infrared heaters were a foot or so away from the tail and was burning the paint and badly warping the skin! Expensive lesson indeed! The one who turned the heater on went on to get his Dash 8 endorsement at City then promptly left for an eastern airline ( Air Nova ? ) I was canned by poppalardo for no good reason !
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