Accident in arnprior
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Accident in arnprior
They broke a nosegear on aMerlin 3 thursday night
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ar ... -1.4132697
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ar ... -1.4132697
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Wonder if they're going to find hardware from the corner store in that nose gear?
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That plane looks like a 3D wireframe of an airplane.
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Is the nose gear a known problem in these aircraft?
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No. Nose wheel steering is but not the nose wheel itself as far as I know.
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These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
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CADOR says 'no damage"!! Yeah, them props is good to go for another 1,800 hours!goingnowherefast wrote:CADOR
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Maybe they forgot they were in the short body today vs the long body? The nose gear on that plane is pretty well engineered.
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Thanks for the info, I didn't want to assume anything but it does bring me back....
I had snagged 3 items at the end of the day once upon a time and had to fly the same aircraft the next day. All three snags were rectified and had all new part numbers in the journey logbook. One of them was the cargo door gas shock...I assumed since they replaced the part I would just throw open the door like it is designed and about 3 seconds later it came back down and smoked me in the back of the head. I looked at the shock and noticed the dent from the chocks I had used the day before to prop it open and considering it was a new part it had the exact same dent.
After start I noticed my first snag had not been fixed, take off roll the second one came back and after take off the third reoccurred. I came back and snagged them all again. As I was getting ready to go home the Ops Manager came to me and asked me if I could do a freighter....I said sure no problem but what airplane? The same one I had just snagged, maintenance would deffer everything so I could do the trip. It was within a month they no longer had an OC. Within 6 months they moved from Prairie to Ontario region and apparently the good times are still rolling.
I do appreciate the experience I gained, but looking back I think I wouldn't send my worst enemy out in those airplanes.
I had snagged 3 items at the end of the day once upon a time and had to fly the same aircraft the next day. All three snags were rectified and had all new part numbers in the journey logbook. One of them was the cargo door gas shock...I assumed since they replaced the part I would just throw open the door like it is designed and about 3 seconds later it came back down and smoked me in the back of the head. I looked at the shock and noticed the dent from the chocks I had used the day before to prop it open and considering it was a new part it had the exact same dent.
After start I noticed my first snag had not been fixed, take off roll the second one came back and after take off the third reoccurred. I came back and snagged them all again. As I was getting ready to go home the Ops Manager came to me and asked me if I could do a freighter....I said sure no problem but what airplane? The same one I had just snagged, maintenance would deffer everything so I could do the trip. It was within a month they no longer had an OC. Within 6 months they moved from Prairie to Ontario region and apparently the good times are still rolling.
I do appreciate the experience I gained, but looking back I think I wouldn't send my worst enemy out in those airplanes.
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Okay, that's a bold statement.FlyAtc wrote:Had nothing to do with the airplane.
How many cycles on that old sware-engine?
Or, did the pilot make a mistake? Can you share so we may learn from others mistakes?
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[quote= Can you share so we may learn from others mistakes?[/quote]
Not landing 160 feet short of the runway would be a start.
Not landing 160 feet short of the runway would be a start.
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2017-06-09
Narrative:
UPDATE: TSB REPORT#A17O0111: C-GFPX, a Swearingen SA-226-T(B) aircraft operated by Skycare, was conducting a flight from North Bay, ON (CYYB) to Arnprior/South Renfrew Muni, ON (CNP3) with two pilots and one flight paramedic on board. Inbound to CNP3, the flight crew was cleared for the VOR/DME approach to Runway 28. The wind was from the east at 7 to 9 knots. The flight crew acquired visual contact with the runway and transitioned to a visual landing. However, the aircraft touched down with all three wheels approximately 160 feet prior to the runway, in an area of short vegetation. Approximately 70 feet passed the initial touchdown point, the nose landing gear collapsed and the propellers began to make contact with the surface. The aircraft continued to slide down the paved surface of the runway for 2000 feet before coming to a stop. Once stopped, the three occupants, who were uninjured, egressed the aircraft without difficulty. The aircraft sustained significant damage to the nose, the nose landing gear and both propellers. Further damage is being assessed.
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/c ... d2017O1295
Narrative:
UPDATE: TSB REPORT#A17O0111: C-GFPX, a Swearingen SA-226-T(B) aircraft operated by Skycare, was conducting a flight from North Bay, ON (CYYB) to Arnprior/South Renfrew Muni, ON (CNP3) with two pilots and one flight paramedic on board. Inbound to CNP3, the flight crew was cleared for the VOR/DME approach to Runway 28. The wind was from the east at 7 to 9 knots. The flight crew acquired visual contact with the runway and transitioned to a visual landing. However, the aircraft touched down with all three wheels approximately 160 feet prior to the runway, in an area of short vegetation. Approximately 70 feet passed the initial touchdown point, the nose landing gear collapsed and the propellers began to make contact with the surface. The aircraft continued to slide down the paved surface of the runway for 2000 feet before coming to a stop. Once stopped, the three occupants, who were uninjured, egressed the aircraft without difficulty. The aircraft sustained significant damage to the nose, the nose landing gear and both propellers. Further damage is being assessed.
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/c ... d2017O1295
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Where did the CADORS get the info of "7-9kts from the EAST" ?
' What is going on ' ... is a good question.
The accident is ten minutes after the Eleven O'clock METAR (wx-record) for Thursday night May 26 at ARNPRIOR; it shows 3-4kts from the WEST.FlyAtc wrote:Or, did the pilot make a mistake? Can you share so we may learn from others mistakes?
' What is going on ' ... is a good question.
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Thursday night May 26th??? ....Arnprior METAR???pdw wrote:The accident is ten minutes after the Eleven O'clock METAR (wx-record) for Thursday night May 26 at ARNPRIOR; it shows 3-4kts from the WEST.
' What is going on ' ... is a good question.
"what is going on" is a greaaaat question.
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The "Arnprior METAR" is the Ottawa METAR. I'm surprised that such a vocal advocate of second-by-second wind analysis and real time reporting to aircraft on approach would reference data from a station 30 miles away from the accident location!Cliff Jumper wrote:Thursday night May 26th??? ....Arnprior METAR???pdw wrote:The accident is ten minutes after the Eleven O'clock METAR (wx-record) for Thursday night May 26 at ARNPRIOR; it shows 3-4kts from the WEST.
' What is going on ' ... is a good question.
"what is going on" is a greaaaat question.
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GyvAir wrote:The "Arnprior METAR" is the Ottawa METAR
CYOW 260300Z 08019KT 4SM -DZ BR OVC006 12/12 A2964 RMK SF8 CIG VRB 4-8 SLP038 DENSITY ALT 400FTpdw wrote:3-4kts from the WEST.