October 1, 2017 - Helicopter down near Campbell River

[golden hawk]

http://www.campbellrivermirror.com/loca ... r-airport/

[Newguy9901]

Anyone heard anything at all??

[Brock_Landers]

The helicopter was an R44. No idea what the cause of the crash was. The female passenger that died was also a helicopter pilot. She was pretty well known and well respected in the industry. I worked with her about 7 years ago.

[golden hawk]

http://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/tsb-e ... -1.3617804

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/208227 ... d-in-crash

No news on the identity of the crew.....

[meflypretty]

She was a good friend and a humble, talented and extremely keen aviator. Sad that our paths will not be crossing again to share stories.
Service in Nanaimo on Saturday.

[golden hawk]

https://globalnews.ca/news/3796195/heli ... ell-river/

Over $20K raised for son of pilot killed in helicopter crash near Campbell River
CKNW
By Emily Lazatin
Reporter CKNW

The victim of a fatal helicopter crash in Campbell River is being remembered as a caring and devoted mother.

“She was an amazing person… her son was her whole life,” said Roger Jamieson.

Jamieson was a friend of Karen Coulter, a 46-year-old woman from Nanaimo who died in a helicopter crash near the Campbell River airport on Oct. 1.

Coulter was a pilot and a single mom who left behind one son.

“She’s so caring and so giving, always happy and always upbeat,” Jamieson said.
A pilot himself, Jamieson has started an online trust fund for Coulter’s son through a GoFundMe page.

“Money isn’t ever going to replace what [her son] lost, but hopefully it gives him some opportunity to pursue his dreams in the future,” said Jamieson.

He said hopefully her son could use it for anything he might need, including an education.

As of Oct. 10, the fund had raised more than $20,000.

Coulter was one of two pilots in the helicopter when it went down, the second pilot survived.


© 2017 Global News, a division of Corus Entertainment Inc.

[CpnCrunch]

Final report here, but not really much info:

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 7p0149.asp

The crash site is right next to some power lines, but the article doesn't mention that and there was no indication that they hit them.

[Heliian]

They lost control at the airport and flew off into the bush.

Pretty weak report. I gather there was some failure in communication between the pilots during a critical handover and control was lost. Instead of dropping the a/c down, it looks like they tried to recover and ended up in a worse spot.

There is little to no crashworthiness built into those type. They are cheap though.

[CpnCrunch]

This article might shed some light on it:

https://verticalmag.com/features/unpack ... ctiveness/

It's crazy to think that until 2019 the helicopter industry had no real clue about the causes or correct recovery from suspected LTE.

I see that Robinson now says the same as Airbus in their POH and safety notices: LTE is unlikely, pilots likely underestimate the amount and duration of pedal inputs required during a sudden unanticipated yaw, and settling on the ground is preferable at low level rather than attempting forward flight.

Still can't get over how useless this TSB report is...

[karmutzen]

Thanks for the link CpnCrunch, interesting read. How to incorporate into flight training? Like VRS, LTS is always there nibbling at the edges of utility work (bucketing, doing log booms pirouette with 25 knots of wind at 20'), you develop a 'feel' for it and never let it fully develop. Wouldn't say the industry didn't know anything about it until the Airbus article, rather that it confirms what most of us already knew (or could feel).

A light R44 is pretty capable, the met report had no warning signs, no mechanical, not much more for the TSB to look at. The pilot with 700 hrs was evaluating the one with 100 for commercial work - neither would be considered experienced.

[J31]

Thanks for the link CpnCrunch, interesting read. How to incorporate into flight training? Like VRS, LTS is always there nibbling at the edges of utility work (bucketing, doing log booms pirouette with 25 knots of wind at 20'), you develop a 'feel' for it and never let it fully develop. Wouldn't say the industry didn't know anything about it until the Airbus article, rather that it confirms what most of us already knew (or could feel).

A light R44 is pretty capable, the met report had no warning signs, no mechanical, not much more for the TSB to look at. The pilot with 700 hrs was evaluating the one with 100 for commercial work - neither would be considered experienced.

The evaluating pilot was a ATPL-H with 3100 hours, and 700 on R44.