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It's time to buzz the tower

#1 Post by Woxof38 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:18 pm

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.3639697

Pilots suspended after buzzing airport tower in Germany. Air Berlin last long-haul ride for airline.
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Re: It's time to buzz the tower

#2 Post by looproll » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:39 pm

the fun police are lurking around every corner

I propose new bank limits... 10 degrees and that's it, too scary otherwise
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#3 Post by Air.Field » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:57 pm

That's what happens when the pattern is full
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#4 Post by godsrcrazy » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:04 pm

I hope they pull the pilots Licences. Although it didn't appear to be all that unsafe. This was a totally reckless move on their behalf. It is not up to the pilots to decide if the passengers in the back want to go on a joy ride. I personally know a few people whom are terrified to fly. Its all they can do to get in and stay calm. They certainly don't need some jackass up front saying its time to buzz the tower Goose.

If they want to go out and buzz shit then maybe they should do it on their dime and rent a 172.
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#5 Post by atphat » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:07 pm

godsrcrazy wrote:I hope they pull the pilots Licences. Although it didn't appear to be all that unsafe. This was a totally reckless move on their behalf. It is not up to the pilots to decide if the passengers in the back want to go on a joy ride. I personally know a few people whom are terrified to fly. Its all they can do to get in and stay calm. They certainly don't need some jackass up front saying its time to buzz the tower Goose.

If they want to go out and buzz shit then maybe they should do it on their dime and rent a 172.
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#6 Post by rookiepilot » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:37 pm

godsrcrazy wrote:I hope they pull the pilots Licences. Although it didn't appear to be all that unsafe. This was a totally reckless move on their behalf. It is not up to the pilots to decide if the passengers in the back want to go on a joy ride. I personally know a few people whom are terrified to fly. Its all they can do to get in and stay calm. They certainly don't need some jackass up front saying its time to buzz the tower Goose.

If they want to go out and buzz shit then maybe they should do it on their dime and rent a 172.
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#7 Post by complexintentions » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:07 pm

Although it didn't appear to be all that unsafe. This was a totally reckless move on their behalf.
So which is it? Oh, never mind. Just another chance to get outraged about...something.

There was no "buzz the tower", it was a gently-banked go-around at what, 200 feet? OOOOooooohhhh.... The pax in the back wouldn't even know what was happening. Pretty funny, the attempts to sensationalize. "A HARD LEFT TURN! CHANNELING THEIR INNER TOPGUN! PEOPLE IN THE TERMINAL SCREAMING!!" Uh, no. Just more cheap-ass reporting.

Sure, she shouldn't have done it (#womenarepilotstoo), and will be rightfully admonished, but let's try and get a tighter grip on reality before thundering hellfire and damnation from our little pulpits, hmmm?

Next up: banning water cannon salutes. Too scary and triggering.

How awful it must be for so many people to live in constant fear of well, everything.
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#8 Post by atphat » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:11 pm

complexintentions wrote:
Although it didn't appear to be all that unsafe. This was a totally reckless move on their behalf.
So which is it? Oh, never mind. Just another chance to get outraged about...something.

There was no "buzz the tower", it was a gently-banked go-around at what, 200 feet? OOOOooooohhhh.... The pax in the back wouldn't even know what was happening. Pretty funny, the attempts to sensationalize. "A HARD LEFT TURN! CHANNELING THEIR INNER TOPGUN! PEOPLE IN THE TERMINAL SCREAMING!!" Uh, no. Just more cheap-ass reporting.

Sure, she shouldn't have done it (#womenarepilotstoo), and will be rightfully admonished, but let's try and get a tighter grip on reality before thundering hellfire and damnation from our little pulpits, hmmm?

Next up: banning water cannon salutes. Too scary and triggering.

How awful it must be for so many people to live in constant fear of well, everything.
TOTALLY reckless for an airline pilot to have a “watch this” moment. Anytime. Anywhere. Maybe that shit flies where you work. Totally out of line where I do.
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#9 Post by GyvAir » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:18 pm

A couple more views. Yeah.. rather irresponsible.

Passenger view:


From the ramp and on top of tower?:


From inside terminal, then inside tower:
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#10 Post by complexintentions » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:31 pm

Careful atphat, you'll need to wipe your screen, all that self-righteous spittle flying! :mrgreen:

Note I didn't condone what they did. I just have even more contempt for people who conflate things far beyond their actual importance, and then have the need to publicly, eagerly condemn what any of us with a brain already know, is obviously wrong. I do have to laugh at the instant jump to label the manoeuvre as "risky", "dangerous", "crazy" and the like. It's kind of embarrassing given the gentleness of the actual stunt. The risk is to the pilot's licenses, not anyone's lives. Such an intense need to sensationalize. Do people just have such incredibly dull, drab lives now that they need to invent danger behind every corner?

The crew will pay for their poor judgement, don't worry yourself about it too much.

Last flight at a defunct airline - my hunch is that the captain is probably leaving the shitty industry anyway, so decided to put a stamp on it.
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#11 Post by digits_ » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:41 pm

Unprofessional: maybe.

Dangerous, extreme, crazy, ... Really? You can hear the agonizing screams of the petrified passengers in the plane :roll:
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#12 Post by complexintentions » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:46 pm

Yes, this is what passes for "extreme" these days. A gentle banked climb, with a seatbelt chime in the background and some surprised murmuring.

God, I hope they pay! :lol:
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#13 Post by digits_ » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:50 pm

I am wondering what punishment he will get. Maybe they'll suspend him for a week while he spends 4 years looking for another job...
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#14 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:14 pm

Do people just have such incredibly dull, drab lives now that they need to invent danger behind every corner?

If that is what some of the experts here consider " dangerous " I suggest they have their license suspended for lack of understanding what dangerous is.

Do these people really fly airplanes for a living?

If so I sure would not get on one they were flying.
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#15 Post by CpnCrunch » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:27 pm

Cat Driver wrote:
If that is what some of the experts here consider " dangerous " I suggest they have their license suspended for lack of understanding what dangerous is.

Do these people really fly airplanes for a living?

If so I sure would not get on one they were flying.
Well there are a large number of stall/spin accidents from buzz jobs. Not that they're inherently dangerous, but I guess the people who make the decision to do them tend to be the kind of people who don't have the skills to pull off such a basic manoeuvre safely.
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#16 Post by trey kule » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:32 pm

He he he.....cool.

Seems it was appoved by the tower..
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#17 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:16 pm

The ignorance of some of the posters here of what constitutes danger is mind boggling just mind boggling.

It was a low pass with around twenty degrees of bank and a shallow climb out.

I am getting convinced that the biggest danger to aviation is some of the pilots here who do not seem to have a clue about flying.

Then again these posters could be just kids playing on their computers...I hope. :prayer: :prayer: :prayer:
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#18 Post by crazyaviator » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:30 pm

ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING ! :roll:
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#19 Post by GyvAir » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:03 pm

I say irresponsible, simply because of the current perception of what may be going on when an aircraft takes an unusual turn towards a building. I’m surprised that the tower approved it.

I’m sure the passengers in the aircraft were briefed and thus weren’t worried. It didn't look that exciting from the onboard video. Not everybody on the ground would be aware of the plan, though.
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#20 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:16 pm

I have had the tower operators ask for a low pass by their tower on several occasions, in fact one day both towers at Schiphol asked for a pass, so I got to do two in one after the other.
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#21 Post by GyvAir » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:22 pm

How long ago was that?
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#22 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:36 pm

Around 2004 as I recall.
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#23 Post by GyvAir » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:58 pm

I'd have guess pre 2001, but I guess Schiphol is a half a world away from New York.
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#24 Post by GyvAir » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:01 pm

You weren't ferrying a PBY by chance, were you?
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#25 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:06 pm

Yes it was a PBY but I was not ferrying in it was based in Holland, that was why they asked for the low pass, so they could have a closer look at it.
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