Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#176 Post by Hockaloogie » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:15 pm

He is suggesting: a) There is something very valuable in that Mooney and b) The police would like to get their hands on whatever it is before someone from the general public does.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#177 Post by Loner » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:26 pm

█████ wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:07 pm
The family has requested privacy during this difficult time.
What’s going on? Why is the username covered? When looking at his/her post history most of the text has been censured
Is this a Hitchcock’s movie or what?!
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#178 Post by Brock_Landers » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:15 pm

Hockaloogie wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:15 pm
He is suggesting: a) There is something very valuable in that Mooney and b) The police would like to get their hands on whatever it is before someone from the general public does.
Drugs maybe?
Loner wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:26 pm
[quote=█████ post_id=<a href="tel:1048675">1048675</a> time=<a href="tel:1533960435">1533960435</a> user_id=32260]
The family has requested privacy during this difficult time.
What’s going on? Why is the username covered? When looking at his/her post history most of the text has been censured
Is this a Hitchcock’s movie or what?!
[/quote]

Yeah this is getting way weird. I love it!
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#179 Post by cncpc » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Cliff Jumper wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:48 pm
cncpc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:30 pm
Cliff Jumper wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:03 pm




Wow.

Those two statements can't both be true.

Pick one or the other.
I wouldn't have written them if they weren't both true.
You are suggesting that the police, as a whole, are engaging in a cover-up. That is a wacky conspiracy theory, full stop.
No, it isn't a wacky conspiracy theory. Mainly because that's not what I am suggesting. I'm not suggesting anything. I merely stated that there is some substance to what that CWB or whatever his nick was said to start all of this.

An airplane is missing. Two people are missing. At a minimum it is a missing persons case. It's a very sad case. Wait until they find the aircraft, if they do. All that is for sure is that it is missing.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#180 Post by Cliff Jumper » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:18 am

cncpc wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:04 pm
I'm not suggesting anything.
You are correct, you are not suggesting it, you are stating it clearly.
cncpc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:26 pm
I do understand the RCMP have told people who may have seen the aircraft not to talk to anyone and not to look for it.
That statement alone is a wacky conspiracy, no further info required.

wack·y
ˈwakē
adjective
funny or amusing in a slightly odd or peculiar way.

con·spir·a·cy
kənˈspirəsē
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

The dictionary then quotes your exact statement, word for word as an example.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#181 Post by cncpc » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:57 am

Cliff Jumper wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:18 am
cncpc wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:04 pm
I'm not suggesting anything.
You are correct, you are not suggesting it, you are stating it clearly.
cncpc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:26 pm
I do understand the RCMP have told people who may have seen the aircraft not to talk to anyone and not to look for it.
That statement alone is a wacky conspiracy, no further info required.

wack·y
ˈwakē
adjective
funny or amusing in a slightly odd or peculiar way.

con·spir·a·cy
kənˈspirəsē
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

The dictionary then quotes your exact statement, word for word as an example.
Whatever.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#182 Post by CpnCrunch » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:26 am

It does seem pretty unlikely to me. If you look at the flightaware track and the weather for that day, it seems more likely they were circling to get under the overcast. I don't think people on the ground would be able to tell the difference.

The weather posted by cncpc from the traffic cameras in rogers pass shows low cloud right down to the ground, so the most likely scenario seems to be that they pushed on into deteriorating weather, and then got trapped.

If the RCMP did tell people not to say about the plane, it's probably just because they don't want lots of unprepared people going out into the wilderness on wild goose chases.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#183 Post by lownslow » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:07 pm

CpnCrunch wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:26 am
If the RCMP did tell people not to say about the plane, it's probably just because they don't want lots of unprepared people going out into the wilderness on wild goose chases.
Get outta here with your logic and sanity, I don’t want this tinfoil hat I just made to go to waste.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#184 Post by anofly » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:52 pm

updates? if any...
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#185 Post by kevind » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:09 am

I just heard on news that the plane was found yesterday near Revelstoke
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#186 Post by Rupert.Pupkin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:57 am

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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#187 Post by cncpc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:53 am

2 km. from Fidelity Tower, the tower that was pinging it. Up in a tree, tail intact.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#188 Post by pelmet » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:07 am

How far is the crash site from the departure airport?
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#189 Post by cncpc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:21 am

pelmet wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:07 am
How far is the crash site from the departure airport?
Maybe 40 clicks. Very close to a road.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#190 Post by anofly » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:33 pm

wait the departure airport was a lot more than 40 klicks, the last one they overflew (revelstoke) was like 40 klicks. I dont think they landed at revelstoke...
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#191 Post by cncpc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:25 pm

anofly wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:33 pm
wait the departure airport was a lot more than 40 klicks, the last one they overflew (revelstoke) was like 40 klicks. I dont think they landed at revelstoke...
Sorry, you are correct. They didn't land at Revelstoke.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#193 Post by daedalusx » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:40 pm

Well families will be able to get closure on this tragedy. Sincere condolences to all involved.

Fantastic work by the BCAS crew who's awareness out there lead to the discovery.
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Photos on CBC

#194 Post by RatherBeFlying » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:27 pm

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.4818700

It's a testament to the density of BC bush that the wreckage was not visible maybe a hundred metres from the Trans Canada.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#195 Post by pelmet » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:54 pm

It is interesting to see in the picture that they are down by the highway level. I can't see much of the surrounding terrain but it appears that it was not one of those flights that hits terrain near the peak but was possibly maneuvering down in a valley. Which likely would not have been their original en route plan. Perhaps they were trying to find the Revelstoke airport as a diversion.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#196 Post by aeroncasuperchief » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:05 pm

It is soo sad to see the plane location soo close to a land-able section of highway! I have landed on many highways including the TCH in poor weather. I was commended for that act by an ex commercial pilot who was the officer who first responded to my landing ! PILOTS, use ALL available tools for your safety !
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Re: Photos on CBC

#197 Post by P-40 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:29 pm

RatherBeFlying wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:27 pm
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.4818700

It's a testament to the density of BC bush that the wreckage was not visible maybe a hundred metres from the Trans Canada.
Is that the Trans-Canada or a secondary highway? There also appears to be a structure of some sort in the photo down and to the right of where the wreckage location is circled.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#198 Post by RatherBeFlying » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:30 pm

https://goo.gl/maps/gNR2RxcwFAD2

This is my guess for the location: yes, just off the TCH. I suspect the "structures" are canopy reflections.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#199 Post by cncpc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:13 pm

It is here.
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Re: Missing airplane on flight from Penticton to Edmonton

#200 Post by cncpc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:15 pm

aeroncasuperchief wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:05 pm
It is soo sad to see the plane location soo close to a land-able section of highway! I have landed on many highways including the TCH in poor weather. I was commended for that act by an ex commercial pilot who was the officer who first responded to my landing ! PILOTS, use ALL available tools for your safety !
It beggars belief.
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