Westwind
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Re: Westwind
Too early to jump to conclusions. Let's wait for the investigation and report. Maybe it'll be classified as a hard landing and not a crash.Any word on the atr crash in fon du lac. Crashed on take off I heard due to freezing rain.
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I don't see anything about FZRA in the CYSF METAR. As far back as 0100z, it was -9C.
Glad to hear there were no fatalities.
Let's not jump to any conclusions just yet.
Glad to hear there were no fatalities.
Let's not jump to any conclusions just yet.
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Wondering where you heard this from. Nothing is mentioned in the article. Do you have some insider source?
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I doubt they landed hard a kilometer from the airport...
The GFA has been showing FZRA all day across northern Sask
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I was obviously only looking at the METAR. But the point that I am making is that there could be any number of causes and let's not make any assumptions about one factor or another just yet.
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UACN01 CYWG 140143
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UUA /OV CYSF /TM 0139 /FLDURD /TP BE20 /IC MDT RIME SFC-015AGL /RM
PILOT ADZ -FZDZ WITHIN 10NM CYSF AT 2225Z WHILE AWOS RPTG -SN
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UUA /OV CYSF /TM 0139 /FLDURD /TP BE20 /IC MDT RIME SFC-015AGL /RM
PILOT ADZ -FZDZ WITHIN 10NM CYSF AT 2225Z WHILE AWOS RPTG -SN
Re: Westwind
Does the Fond du Lac airport have any deicing capability on the ground?
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Question should be does westwind have an adequate de ice unit along with the required lift to get to the height of the tail to de ice and inspect. It's pretty high up there and a regular ladder won't work.
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Please keep speculation to yourself. No one, not the ground crew, or other “inside sources”, knows the factors that caused this crash. To speculate on one idea that may have lead to an accident simply spreads rumours not based on facts. The TSB will provide a cause(s) in time.
The facts are that the airplane crashed and all souls survived. This is extremely good news given the possibility of post crash fires for such events.
From what I understand, support from both the Fond du Lac and Stony Rapids communities helped minimize casualties with their emergency services. The addition of the CF Hercules and it’s crew undoubtedly helped as well.
Those of us that know people involved in this event are feeling a great sigh of releaf that nothing worse happened.
The facts are that the airplane crashed and all souls survived. This is extremely good news given the possibility of post crash fires for such events.
From what I understand, support from both the Fond du Lac and Stony Rapids communities helped minimize casualties with their emergency services. The addition of the CF Hercules and it’s crew undoubtedly helped as well.
Those of us that know people involved in this event are feeling a great sigh of releaf that nothing worse happened.
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If you don’t want to see any speculation or people guessing what happened then you should stay off of aviation forums. Maybe go to the TSB wedsite and in 2 years you’ll see the reportTurbolag wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:50 am Please keep speculation to yourself. No one, not the ground crew, or other “inside sources”, knows the factors that caused this crash. To speculate on one idea that may have lead to an accident simply spreads rumours not based on facts. The TSB will provide a cause(s) in time.
The facts are that the airplane crashed and all souls survived. This is extremely good news given the possibility of post crash fires for such events.
From what I understand, support from both the Fond du Lac and Stony Rapids communities helped minimize casualties with their emergency services. The addition of the CF Hercules and it’s crew undoubtedly helped as well.
Those of us that know people involved in this event are feeling a great sigh of releaf that nothing worse happened.
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Re: Westwind
The lack of deicing facility for 705 aircracft in the North is Canada's dirty little secret.
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Even with "de-icing" equipment in the far north for some 705 operators, having the pilots responsible for actually getting out and doing it would be a hazard I am surprised Transport allows...by surprised...I mean SMS will be sure to take care of it and keep everyone safe.
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Re: Westwind
If it was something other than crashing due to contaminated wings the company or the pilots will quickly let everyone know.
For sure they will not wait two years for the TSB B.S. to be released
For sure they will not wait two years for the TSB B.S. to be released
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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I'm sure in 4 years we'll get to read the prelim report...
In twenty years time when your kids ask how you got into flying you want to be able to say "work and determination" not "I just kept taking money from your grandparents for type ratings until someone was stupid enough to give me a job"