K country crash

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K country crash

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.4770520

Any ideas of the aircraft type or owner. “Twin” was mentioned
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Re: K country crash

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I hope it wasn't those guys. I talked to them here in Penticton last Saturday after they parked the Navajo for the night 🙁

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFNCI
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navajo's are front and center in the advertising for the company, that does not mean at all that it has to be a navajo... but they seem to advertise having 2 of them and have no other aircraft in the promotional stuff...
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FlySigi wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:41 pm I hope it wasn't those guys. I talked to them here in Penticton last Saturday after they parked the Navajo for the night 🙁

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFNCI
Yes sources are saying it was.
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looks like a possible survey run, then a run to calgary? flightaware....
respectfully, and condolences...
fly safe folks...
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Re: K country crash

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Roadrunnersmother wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:00 pm
FlySigi wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:41 pm I hope it wasn't those guys. I talked to them here in Penticton last Saturday after they parked the Navajo for the night 🙁

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFNCI
Yes sources are saying it was.
That sucks. They did surveys out of Penticton, went back to Calgary today and supposed to come back to Penticton in a few days to continue with the surveys ☹️
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Re: K country crash

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The last return on Flightradar24 shows 13,100 ft, vertical speed -8,500 ft/min.

My condolences to the friends and families.
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YYC650 wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:06 pm The last return on Flightradar24 shows 13,100 ft, vertical speed -8,500 ft/min.
And ground speed 16 knots. There were a lot of speed and altitude fluctuations over the last five or so minutes. There were also a lot of nasty storms building over the Rockies at that time.
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I knew the pilot of this aircraft. He was just at the beginning of his career, and will be missed by many. RIP
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Posthumane wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:36 am I knew the pilot of this aircraft. He was just at the beginning of his career, and will be missed by many. RIP
Now is not the time, but a discussion on the risks of being in the back seat of a survey aircraft needs to be had.
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Diadem wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:46 pm There were also a lot of nasty storms building over the Rockies at that time.
Not where they were:

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Only one small storm 20nm away. Certainly there was convective activity, but enough to bring down a Navajo when there was nothing at all on the weather radar?
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CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:35 am
Diadem wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:46 pm There were also a lot of nasty storms building over the Rockies at that time.
Not where they were:

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Only one small storm 20nm away. Certainly there was convective activity, but enough to bring down a Navajo when there was nothing at all on the weather radar?
What were the winds aloft, Cpn?

Maybe some standing wave.
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cncpc wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:09 pm
What were the winds aloft, Cpn?

Maybe some standing wave.
I don't know what the winds were, and it's certainly a possibility that there was some kind of mountain wave. The GFA is showing some upper level troughs moving through. I was just pointing out that they didn't plough through a thunderstorm.
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Disregard.
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Posthumane wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:36 am I knew the pilot of this aircraft. He was just at the beginning of his career, and will be missed by many. RIP
What was his experience level?
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cncpc wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:03 pm
Posthumane wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:36 am I knew the pilot of this aircraft. He was just at the beginning of his career, and will be missed by many. RIP
What was his experience level?
My apologies, I made a mistake. My pilot friend was killed in a plane crash in BC the same day. I heard about this plane going down and shortly after heard about his death, but it was a different flight in which he was a passenger. Still a tragedy, but please disregard my reference to the pilot of this particular flight.
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Re: K country crash

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C-FNCI, a Piper PA-31 Navajo aircraft operated by Aries Aviation Services, was conducting an IFR flight from Penticton, BC to Calgary/Springbank, AB (CYBW) with one pilot and one survey technician on board. At 1935 MDT while descending through 14 000 feet ASL, approximately 37 nm Southwest of CYBW, the pilot indicated that there was a problem. There were no further transmissions received. The aircraft impacted terrain in the approximate area of Rae’s Glacier in Kananaskis Country. Both occupants were fatally injured.
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Kind of a strange accident. Any theories on why the engine lost power at that moment?

What about the oxygen system, it sounds very inconvenient and I didn't quite understand how it works.
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Re: K country crash

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I'm a little behind but how did the investigators know all the engine parameters leading up to the accident? Did it have one of those data recording engine monitors? I'll bet he wished he had another pilot in the cockpit with him to help out.
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