SR20 "Runway Excursion" at CYKZ (Buttonville)

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SR20 "Runway Excursion" at CYKZ (Buttonville)

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Here's the story and the video...

https://www.bttoronto.ca/2019/03/13/sma ... -reported/
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Did somebody not set the date on their video camera? or is the video from another incident? (I guess it wasn't 2346 hours, so perhaps the former....)
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Nobody thought to pull the 'chute? WTF?
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Sorry Goose...it's time to buzz the tower (and adjacent highway)!
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Less of an excursion and more of a road trip...
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photofly wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:50 am Did somebody not set the date on their video camera? or is the video from another incident? (I guess it wasn't 2346 hours, so perhaps the former....)
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Nobody thought to pull the 'chute? WTF?
Holy FACJ!
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photofly wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:50 am Did somebody not set the date on their video camera? or is the video from another incident? (I guess it wasn't 2346 hours, so perhaps the former....)
Screen Shot 2019-03-13 at 5.49.31 PM.png

Nobody thought to pull the 'chute? WTF?
They were doing circuit work and had just departed the runway. A little too low for the chute.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.5054538
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Would have made for an even more awesome video, though.
Bill Chan captured the incident on his truck's dash cam, and it's been shared widely by various people online. You can see the harrowing footage below:


Chan told CBC Toronto it was his day off and he was on his way to a family meal at the time of the incident. After it happened, he said he and his colleagues rushed out to buy $300 worth of lottery tickets, hoping his luck would continue.
Should have plumped for some Boeing shares, too.
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photofly wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:41 pm
Should have plumped for some Boeing shares, too.
Nahhh, Bombardier, the expert day traders only play that one.
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FlyGy wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:28 pm
They were doing circuit work and had just departed the runway. A little too low for the chute.
The approach was to RWY 15, are you saying they were doing circuits on 33 and tried to return (low level 180) for some reason?

The TSB is calling this as a runway excursion... in what universe is this a runway excursion? If you never made it (back) to the runway, how can you be said to have departed it?
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Looks like either an engine failure off departure 33, or they horsed it off way too slow after using too much runway on the touch and go. Hence the wing drop.

Only A guess, either way real lucky to make it across 16th ave, which is very busy. Extremely lucky to be alive.
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A346Dude wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:08 pm
FlyGy wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:28 pm
They were doing circuit work and had just departed the runway. A little too low for the chute.
The approach was to RWY 15, are you saying they were doing circuits on 33 and tried to return (low level 180) for some reason?

The TSB is calling this as a runway excursion... in what universe is this a runway excursion? If you never made it (back) to the runway, how can you be said to have departed it?
Maybe this will help.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/ ... le-airport
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I’ve already read the article and seen the video, if you have any analysis or confirmation on specifics I’d be interested to hear it. I know the article says RWY 33 but I don’t have much confidence in the Toronto Sun getting the runway direction right, or even knowing there is a difference.
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A346Dude wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:37 pm I’ve already read the article and seen the video, if you have any analysis or confirmation on specifics I’d be interested to hear it. I know the article says RWY 33 but I don’t have much confidence in the Toronto Sun getting the runway direction right, or even knowing there is a difference.
It's right. That road is right off the departure end.
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I’m aware of the orientation at YKZ. But the video provides no proof circuits to 33 were in progress, it is just as likely it was a botched approach to 15.
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A346Dude wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:45 pm I’m aware of the orientation at YKZ. But the video provides no proof circuits to 33 were in progress, it is just as likely it was a botched approach to 15.
Plane is going north, left to right. That's the 404 right in front of the video. Had to be departure off 33. I mean, hard to see how else plane could be where it is
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Understood, I was thinking the plane ended up on the south side of 16th Ave. Thanks for the clarification.
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A346Dude wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:08 pm
FlyGy wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:28 pm
They were doing circuit work and had just departed the runway. A little too low for the chute.
The approach was to RWY 15,
Where did you hear they were approaching 15? Everything I've heard and read says they were a student and instructor doing circuits on 33.
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I mistakenly thought, from another photo showing the whole scene including what I thought was the aircraft on the south side of 16th Ave, that the aircraft was travelling north to south.
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Re: SR20 "Runway Excursion" at CYKZ (Buttonville)

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Different outcome if they were doing circuits off 15 and that happened.

Not nice options off the end, I've hated taking off 15.

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Re: SR20 "Runway Excursion" at CYKZ (Buttonville)

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To the OP: Can you please put the correct date to March 12th? All the media reported it one day late on the 13th.

Looking back at the archives on liveatc.net, they were indeed doing a touch and go on runway 33.
March 12th 1730z Archive : http://archive-server.liveatc.net/cykz/ ... -1730Z.mp3
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