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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... -jet-crash
In a time when the public is especially sensitive about any airplane disasters, coupled with the now traditional interest in Russian oligarchs, a tragic story from Sunday afternoon combines both: the co-owner of Russia's second biggest airline Siberia Airlines (aka S7), and Russia’s fourth richest woman, Natalia Fileva, was killed in a freak crash when her private jet crashed in Germany, taking the lives of a pilot and another passenger as well, the company said.
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The plane crashed in a field near the town of Erzhausen, some 10 kilometers (6 miles) south of Frankfurt, police said, adding that at least three people, including the pilot, were on board. The identity of the other person who accompanied Fileva is still unclear, with some reports suggesting her father was on the plane.

According to RT, the US-made Epic E1000 turboprop light aircraft crashed into the ground as it was preparing to make a landing at Egelsbach airport. The plane was destroyed and completely burnt out as it hit the ground, according to police. The debris is scattered around an area of a 20 meter-radius.

The cause of the crash has not yet been identified, S7 said.

Natalia was the wife of Vladislav Filev, the CEO and co-owner of S7 Airlines – Russia’s biggest private airline holding company. Her personal wealth amounted to $600 million according to Forbes magazine. S7 is the main competitor in Russia to Aeroflot. It has 96 aircraft that fly to 181 cities and towns in 26 countries, the company's website says.

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Natalia Fileva
"The S7 Group holding team expresses deepest condolences to the family and significant others," the company said adding that Russian and international authorities would investigate the crash.

Aeroflot also paid tribute: "As head of the S7 Group of Companies, Natalia achieved outstanding success, helped strengthen domestic civil aviation and increase the authority of Russia as a great aviation power.

"The management and staff of Aeroflot express sincere condolences to the relatives and friends of Natalia and the entire staff of the S7 Group of Companies. We grieve with you, colleagues."

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Russian specialists will take part in the investigation of the tragedy. So far German media reported that the pilot had not notified aviation authorities of any malfunctions during the flight, although so far no speculation of foul play has emerged.

Meanwhile, adding to the freak nature of the event, two other people died when a police vehicle rushing to the scene of the crash collided with another car near the airport. The three police officers in the police car suffered serious injuries, DPA reported.
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It certainly is a freak accident to be killed in a private jet crash when you’re in a turboprop.
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Smart businesswoman saved money on a single engine airplane and a single (probably) less experienced pilot to fly it. A ruble saved is a ruble earned.
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Victory wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:11 am
Smart businesswoman saved money on a single engine airplane and a single (probably) less experienced pilot to fly it. A ruble saved is a ruble earned.
For the life of me I can’t understand why the mega rich behave this way. If I had that kind of money I would spend on good maintenance and experienced pilots. Your life depends on it. Not just a problem in Russia. Canada has many individuals with deep pockets but short arms!
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:24 am
Victory wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:11 am
Smart businesswoman saved money on a single engine airplane and a single (probably) less experienced pilot to fly it. A ruble saved is a ruble earned.
For the life of me I can’t understand why the mega rich behave this way. If I had that kind of money I would spend on good maintenance and experienced pilots. Your life depends on it. Not just a problem in Russia. Canada has many individuals with deep pockets but short arms!
All speculation at this point. I believe that there are Russian investors in Epic aircraft. I wonder if she had any financial connection to this as it does seem odd for a very wealthy oligarch type to be on an aircraft like this unless they were a pilot who likes this sort of airplane or an investor.
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Looks like I may be on the right track....

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/620 ... st10435698
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Also seems that the airframe was involved in a previous incident with her husband on board

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... de-457082/
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JBI wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:37 am
Also seems that the airframe was involved in a previous incident with her husband on board

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... de-457082/
That was a gear up landing.

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OLD PIECE OF CRAP!
Development(Picked up by cheap russkies long ago)

Interior accommodation
The LT was designed by Epic Air LLC of Bend, Oregon, to meet demand for a kit-built high-performance single turboprop-engined six-seat private owner aircraft. It has a low-wing layout with the tailplanes mid-set on a single fin. The tricycle undercarriage is fully retractable. Its construction uses composites incorporating carbon fibres. The engine is a Pratt & Whitney PT6-67A turboprop flat rated to 1200 hp.[6]

The prototype LT first flew in 2004.[1]

The prototype Dynasty, Epic LT number 14, had logged over 1000 hours of certification flight testing by 23 October 2006, but certification was not complete in June 2009, with the company reporting over 2000 test hours flown.

Flight testing of the prototype, registered C-FJRQ, was initially commenced in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, but the aircraft was removed from the Canadian register on 2 March 2007. It was moved back to Bend, Oregon, and re-registered as N6XK.[6][11][12][13]

Sales stopped in 2012, to be replaced by the certificated Epic E1000, and the 54th and final kit had secured its certificate of airworthiness in December 2018, before its early 2019 delivery to its owner.[3]

It is the basis of the China Aviation Industry General Aircraft Primus 150.

Operational history

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Deliveries of LT kits commenced in 2006 with the first one completed that year[14] and the aircraft was demonstrated at the EAA show at Oshkosh, Wisconsin, in July 2007.

Initially, the LT aircraft kits were completed by amateur builders under factory supervision in the factory at Bend but some later examples have been assembled at field locations, with assistance from Epic Aircraft.

On 7 July 2016, six Epic LT kit-built aircraft departed on a global circumnavigation flight, flown by owner-pilots. They departed from the AirVenture 2016 airshow, in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.[15]

Accidents and incidents
On 31 March 2019, an Epic LT, registration RA-2151G, crashed in a field on approach to the small airport at the town of Egelsbach in southwestern Germany at about 3:30 p.m. Russian S7 Airlines co-owner Natalia Fileva, one of Russia’s richest women, the pilot and another passenger died in the crash.[16]

The company has a checkered past. Epic was introduced to the GA market in the early 2000s with businessman Rick Schrameck at the helm. The intent from the get-go was to offer a kit version of the single-engine turboprop Epic LT while simultaneously going through certification.

In 2012 Engineering LLC, a Russian MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul) company became the new owners of Epic.

Look at the similar Epic crash 4 years ago...(We will have to wait 2 or 3 years to get the exact report for this one crash)
Epic LT, N669WR: Fatal accident occurred December 27, 2016 at Spruce Creek Airport (7FL6), Port Orange, Volusia County, Florida

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Based on radar information and statements from witnesses, the pilot's approach to the airport was unstabilized. He descended below the minimum descent altitude of 440 ft, and, after breaking through the fog about 100 ft agl, the airplane reentered the fog and completed a 360° right turn near the approach end of the runway, during which its altitude varied from 100 ft to 300 ft. The airplane then climbed to an altitude about 800 ft before radar contact was lost near the accident site. The airplane came to rest inverted, consistent with one witness's statement that it descended through the clouds in a spin before impact; postaccident examination revealed no preimpact anomalies with the airplane or engine that would have precluded normal operation. Although the pilot was instrument rated, his recent instrument experience could not be established.
http://registry.faa.gov/N669WR
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Location: Port Orange, FL
Accident Number: ERA17FA074
Date & Time: 12/27/2016, 1756 EST
Registration: N669WR
Aircraft: INDEPENDENT TECHNOLOGIES INC EPIC LT
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Defining Event: Loss of control in flight
Injuries: 2 Fatal
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General Aviation - Personal
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We have now million of billionnaires in China, USA, Europe and of course Russia...(while the rest of us are starving)
But like this Natalia, they want to have these multi-million toys...however, they are too cheap to hire real pilots like us
AND they are(like Daryl here) too lazy to learn to fly those things properly!
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Daryl Ingalsbe of Spicer, left, and Deb Solsrud of New London, pose for a photo in Moscow.
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Wow all that money and they didn't buy a 737 Max8. Crazy
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Putin did it.
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People that own airplane companies tend to fly their own aircraft. The deceased husband evidently owns Epic.
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You feel sorry for the victims of these cars' crash(on they way to the plane crash)...as for them in the plane...
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THE PROP NOT MEND SAY A LOT!
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Despite the low cost, the Epic LT Dinasty aircraft did not acquire much popularity over the period of its production, and this is due not so much to the bankruptcy of Epic Aircraft, but to the fact that the aircraft was currently being produced and is being produced as self-contained kits. assemblies, which, even taking into account the availability of specialized tools and equipment, require about 1100-1200 hours of work, which is unacceptable.

The Epic LT weighs 4,400 pounds empty, and on the day of our AOPA demo flight it was loaded with four adults, baggage, and 200 gallons of fuel, putting our takeoff weight at 6,500 pounds, or 5.4 pounds per horsepower. That’s slightly better than a P–51 Mustang, which typically operates at about 6.2 pounds per horsepower.

Mark and Mike Patey, have built seven experimental aircraft including: Epic Lt, RV6, RV10, Compair 8, Zenith 801, and their beloved twin Lancair legacy Racers. “We set the transcontinental world coast to coast speed records together in both planes flying wingtip to wingtip across the country. We both hold multi-engine instrument land and sea, and commercial ratings. We also hold various type ratings, aerobatic training and our rotorcraft helicopter license,” said Patey.

Mike is an engineer who specializes in hybrid vehicle design. He and his brother have started several businesses and even saved a Costa Rican soccer team (see http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... diano.html). He started Prodigy Engineering and was a key figure in many successful companies such as BlueStep Technologies, 4Care Pharmacies, and Growth Climate Education and Therapy Centers.

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Oh!...as for N669WR...worse, his propeller was...powered but FEATHERED!...WHY?(Fine, it would have scratched the other way)
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Victory wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:11 am
Smart businesswoman saved money on a single engine airplane and a single (probably) less experienced pilot to fly it. A ruble saved is a ruble earned.
Ruble saved, ruble earned.......lol funniest thing I've heard all day. You tell em' !!
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FlyGy wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:20 am
Putin did it.
I wouldn't doubt it was planned by somebody.
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Hello guys! It's weird here to hear about unexpirienced air company pilot or greedy Russian.
But my Canadiens friends in our yellow press pops up that one about PT-6:
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These machines are installed turboprop engine PT6 Canadian company Pratt & Whitney. For ten years, Canadian authorities at least three times issued emergency messages about the dangers associated with the operation of the motor. The power plant turned out to be capricious: its usual aerodynamic qualities and ability to work were significantly affected by ordinary corrosion.
In 2015, Canadian aviation authorities issued an emergency warning for all owners of cars with these engines. In the directive it was forbidden to lift the aircraft into the air before troubleshooting, because they can lead to engine failure in flight.
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Well, Teterboro or Natania, the same problem seem that rich bitches seem to forget about AIRSPEED!

The PT-6 have that problem too...folks find it so quiet, they got TOO QUIET(slide in with coarse pitch, not fine with power, get in trouble!)
I remember, in fine, you buzz the camp so they pick me up by the lake, THEY STILL CANNOT HEAR ME!(Having coffee outside and not looking up!)
It's even worse with a turbo Mallard...careful to get too coarse 'n too slow when too quiet.

Even the Mallard piston with PW-1340...it still get too quiet, as you can see!(The Groomin, as "they" say in Istray-ya)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yEUiekZsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p3CbKfMkE4

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They heard you, they just don't care.
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More Epic "Interesting" stuff, as would a Chinaman say...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Aircraft

Other sworn statements by Clark and General Manager David Hice alleged that the company was a "chaotic financial environment over which CEO Rick Schrameck ruled exclusively". Hice further alleged many financial irregularities, including that the company missed its payroll in July 2004 and was only able to pay its staff using customer aircraft deposits from sales at AirVenture that same month. Hice also alleged that "On June 16th, 2009 I was terminated after Rick Schrameck physically attacked me."[7][8][9]

In September 2009 CEO Rick Schrameck was removed by the board of directors from any "managerial or supervisory capacity" with Epic parent company Aircraft Investor Resources, and the company voluntarily entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy, seeking to reorganize, find investors and continue kitplane production on a reduced scale.

As a result of the bankruptcy filing customers with aircraft under construction at the company facility were permitted to remove their aircraft and parts.[10][11] In an auction on 26 March 2010, the state-owned China Aviation Industry General Aircraft was the highest bidder with a US$4.3 million offer,

2015
Schrameck was arrested for fraud in March 2015 in Los Angeles and held in federal custody awaiting trial. The detention order filed indicated that he should not be released due to a high risk of "flight to foreign country". On 27 March 2015, Schramek pleaded not guilty in US District Court to eight counts of wire fraud, four counts of mail fraud and six counts of money laundering regarding his dealings with Epic and its customers. The case alleges that Schramek deliberately defrauded customers of more than US$14 million.[6][23]

The company's E1000 single engine turboprop had its first flight on 19 December 2015.[24]

2018
In April 2018 former CEO Schrameck pleaded "guilty" to one count of wire fraud and will be sentenced on 14 August 2018 by US District Court Judge Ann Aiken. The Department of Justice, US Attorney’s Office, District of Oregon stated, "Schrameck gave customers Airframe Purchase Agreements and Aircraft Completion Assistance Agreements that misrepresented how the customers’ funds were being used. Without his customers’ knowledge, Schrameck used the funds for other projects, to complete existing Epic LT aircraft, and to support his own lavish lifestyle.".[25][26]

None of these types has yet been certified, and some remain only design projects:

LT is a 6-place experimental turbo-prop airplane.
Victory is an experimental single-engine jet.
E1000 is a six-place turbo-prop airplane under development in 2015 for certification forecast in 2018.
Escape is a 92% scaled version of the Epic LT, with 4-5 seats.
Elite is an experimental twin-engine jet, initially intended as a kit aircraft, which the company plans to certify later. It utilises an LT model fuselage with cosmetic and structural changes.



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Schrameck faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years’ supervised release. He is scheduled to be sentenced Aug. 14. before U.S. District Court Judge Ann Aiken.
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One must say that the Epic look far better than the TBM(Two Blind Mices)

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The TBM already built 900 of them, but it look like it's have been built by a lumber jack with an axe!

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No axe used with the Epic...
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SheriffPatGarrett wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:19 am
Based on radar information and statements from witnesses, the pilot's approach to the airport was unstabilized. He descended below the minimum descent altitude of 440 ft, and, after breaking through the fog about 100 ft agl, the airplane reentered the fog and completed a 360° right turn near the approach end of the runway, during which its altitude varied from 100 ft to 300 ft. The airplane then climbed to an altitude about 800 ft before radar contact was lost near the accident site.
I get the chance to fly at this airport on occasion. I asked about this accident and was told by the pilot that this aircraft was seen to be in a 45 degree bank during its 360 degree right turn. Bad idea.
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In case anyone needs a summary of the responses on this thread:
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lownslow wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:47 am
In case anyone needs a summary of the responses on this thread:
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Better yet, that sums up 98% of this whole forum, sadly.

Ironically, even this post I'm making right now.
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