OK. How about contaminated fuel like the Cathay A330 guys?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathay_ ... Flight_780
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OK. How about contaminated fuel like the Cathay A330 guys?
Could be.pelmet wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:04 am
OK. How about contaminated fuel like the Cathay A330 guys?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathay_ ... Flight_780
They don't and I'll wager the first thing done was check refueling in YPL and no contamination found.There's no jet fuel in YFH though. So they would have flown there with the contaminated fuel and then have a double flameout on the way back?
If the lakes are mirrored it is actually way harder and worse to do especially if dead sticking it in there, they must have been ex float pilots because most other pilots won’t judge glassy water correctlyipilot54 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:18 pm I was up until about midnight in that general area. Don't have any idea what happened however, if I needed to ditch it would have been a perfect night to do so. The lakes looked like mirrors with no wind and the moon, although not full, was quite bright. In fact, my FO commented "what a beautiful night".
And while you can see the "glow" on the horizon at this time of the year at that time, it is of no help. The moon and clear skies are as it appeared from our our perspective are.
You dont "judge" a glassy water landing, you recognize it is glassy and then apply the technique which is basically an instrument approach to touchdown from a minimum safe height above water.because most other pilots won’t judge glassy water correctly
goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 am So why did they end up there?
I'm surprised Cat and Ilya aren't all over this with their typical rhetoric. Maybe because it's a DC3 and DC3 pilots are perfect?
Are you saying DC3 pilots aren't perfect?goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 am So why did they end up there?
I'm surprised Cat and Ilya aren't all over this with their typical rhetoric. Maybe because it's a DC3 and DC3 pilots are perfect?
You wouldn't ditch a burning airplane?Dry Guy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:42 am I can't see anyone picking up cargo at 1:00 am. I'd imagine this was a fuel hauler. Maybe it was on fire. A hot pump and a leaky hose or something. I'd be wanting to get out of a burning fuel plane asap with tanks full of fuel vapors. Not sure if I'd ditch it or not.
Whatever happened to that guy?
Anyone know who the crew was?Dry Guy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:23 amgoingnowherefast wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 am So why did they end up there?
I'm surprised Cat and Ilya aren't all over this with their typical rhetoric. Maybe because it's a DC3 and DC3 pilots are perfect?
Illya is friends with people at the company so won't hold them to the same standard as others.
Maybe it's because we have no idea why it ended up there.I'm surprised Cat and Ilya aren't all over this with their typical rhetoric. Maybe because it's a DC3 and DC3 pilots are perfect?
If that's the case, that is a pretty significant deviation. And even if it was the PM, the PF still takes blame since everything is supposed to be confirmed. Unless, the PM action-ed something without confirmation which is even worse.Just another canuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:33 pm Keep in mind could be a rumour only but I heard the PM pulled the condition levers instead of the props. Which when you think about it, is the most reasonable scenario I can think of. Better chance of hitting lotto max on a weekly basis than having true dual engine failures. Fuel contamination seems unlikely to me cause they already flew a leg. That thing will fly just fine on one so... And I'd really like to know what happened to the one on the ice too.