New North Star Basler Accident (Number 3)

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New North Star Basler Accident (Number 3)

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North Star Air is reporting that one of the company's Basler BT-67 cargo aircraft was involved in an accident near Sachigo Lake, Ontario.

The accident happened at approximately 9:10am local time on December 3, 2019.

There were no passengers onboard the aircraft and both flight crew members sustained no injuries.

North Star Air activated their Emergency Response Plan. The Transportation Safety Board and Transport Canada have been notified and will be leading the investigation in determining the cause. North Star Air will be cooperating fully with their investigation.
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D’oh!
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At least it is *near* a lake instead of *in* a lake.

We're making progress!
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What's that three now? Giving Keystone a run for their money..oh wait.
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Did we ever find out for sure what caused the first accident? All I saw was that the engines were examined and had no mechanical fault.
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It's only two airplanes, but they crashed the first one twice. :roll:

Maybe TC Ontario region needs some assistance from Prarie North on what to do with sketchy operations (Buffalo, Keystone). Only allowed to crash so many planes in a short timeframe before you are done.
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Heard somebody miss Wannawoman about 9:30, so WX might not have been great.
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digits_ wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:57 am
At least it is *near* a lake instead of *in* a lake.

We're making progress!
Is that because the lake was frozen?
pelmet wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:10 am
Did we ever find out for sure what caused the first accident? All I saw was that the engines were examined and had no mechanical fault.
Contaminated wings on takeoff.
goingnowherefast wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:52 am
It's only two airplanes, but they crashed the first one twice. :roll:

Maybe TC Ontario region needs some assistance from Prarie North on what to do with sketchy operations (Buffalo, Keystone). Only allowed to crash so many planes in a short timeframe before you are done.
I doubt TC really cares what cargo pilots do to themselves.
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:16 pm
Heard somebody miss Wannawoman about 9:30, so WX might not have been great.
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Illya Kuryakin wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:16 pm
Heard somebody miss Wannawoman about 9:30, so WX might not have been great.
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I heard thunder miss as well at wunnamun. The pic I’ve see looks pretty misty in the background. Probably wasn’t great. Probably landed long and off the end.
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When is it enough?

What is the difference between crashing 2 passenger airplanes in 8 months or 2 cargo airplanes? Seems to mean something to TC.
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Pic I saw is through a pile of timber. They should park or sell those things or find someone who actually knows how to fly them. How long is tc gonna stand by and let this slide?
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Cutting corners + Pushing it = This kind of safety stats.
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those chippies and pop really need to get in
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goingnowherefast wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:52 am
It's only two airplanes, but they crashed the first one twice. :roll:

Maybe TC Ontario region needs some assistance from Prarie North on what to do with sketchy operations (Buffalo, Keystone). Only allowed to crash so many planes in a short timeframe before you are done.
No need to look to TC, it will only be a matter of time before thier insurance rates put them out of buisness
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The Northwest Company might be regretting their purchase at this point.
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Salt wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:15 am
The Northwest Company might be regretting their purchase at this point.
Had to chuckle when I saw this today:
"The integration of North Star Air will lead to further synergies and better logistic solutions."
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Fantastic logistics when the goods arrive on the frozen surface of a lake 1 mile from the departure airport. Do we know if the Sachigo incident happened on arrival or departure?

I'd imagine Northstar exec's and NW Company exec's are having some pretty serious conversations.
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Thankfully the boys walked away again. Its so difficult to pack properly for these Basler recoveries. Skidoo, boat, chainsaw... which one to take???
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Eleveniron wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:57 pm
Thankfully the boys walked away again.
Is it a different crew involved in each crash. It can't be a very large company.
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I doubt the fos were the same in any of the crashes with the turnover they have right seat wise.
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Eleveniron wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:57 pm
Thankfully the boys walked away again. Its so difficult to pack properly for these Basler recoveries. Skidoo, boat, chainsaw... which one to take???
Ok that one almost put coffee through my nose. Well done
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pelmet wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:06 pm
Eleveniron wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:57 pm
Thankfully the boys walked away again.
Is it a different crew involved in each crash. It can't be a very large company.
Not sure which situation would be better: if it is the same crew every time, or a different crew every time. In both cases their are some giant red flags with the operation of that company...

Kudo though, that once again nobody died. Those are impressive numbers.
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What part is impressive? Crashing 3 planes in 2 years? Or crashing 3 planes and 0 injuries?
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goingnowherefast wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:57 pm
What part is impressive? Crashing 3 planes in 2 years? Or crashing 3 planes and 0 injuries?
Crashing one plane twice and a second plane once, off airport with 0 injuries.
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First reports said "in the lake" so I was gonna suggest getting a couple pairs of them DC-3 amphibs from Folsom's down in Maine.
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