Perimeter Shamattawa
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Re: Perimeter Shamattawa
The aircraft has been back in Winnipeg for a while, the damage doesn't seem substantial
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I've been disappointed in a lot of the recent TSB investigations. Gone are the days of the Dryden Inquirey.
Baslers keep going skating, swimming or bush-wacking and hardly a peep from the TSB or TC. A cargo train runs off the tracks and it is big f-n deal, crash 3 cargo planes and nobody seems to care.
Baslers keep going skating, swimming or bush-wacking and hardly a peep from the TSB or TC. A cargo train runs off the tracks and it is big f-n deal, crash 3 cargo planes and nobody seems to care.
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I’m pretty sure the TSB has left enough clues for us to figure out what happened. If it wasn’t obvious or a if it was a serious issue, they would investigate further.
I’m guessing airplane weathercocked due to the crosswinds and an icy runway. They don’t usually add those details in their write ups.
I’m guessing airplane weathercocked due to the crosswinds and an icy runway. They don’t usually add those details in their write ups.
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I'm not sure what the issue is. Their mandate is to investigate and if there are immediate safety issues, address them with the company and finish the investigation and write a report. I see nothing that makes it compulsory to keep the un-associated public informed.
Black air has no lift - extra fuel has no weight
http://www.blackair.ca
http://www.blackair.ca
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With the amount of airplanes that can't seem to stay on the runway, I'm surprised nobody is considering it an immediate safety issue. Everything from this one to WJ in YHZ.
Are airport operators keeping the runways in good condition with updated RSCs? Are operators and pilots (SOPs/training) considering the friction on these less-than-stellar runways? The CARs don't even require operators account for the friction or any contaminant of the surface they are landing on. Desnisty-altitude, temperature, and slope (CAR 705.56); wet runways if it's a jet is all they care about. But this is Canada where we have winter, snow and contaminated runways, yet no requirement to change the opration from dry pavement.
Are airport operators keeping the runways in good condition with updated RSCs? Are operators and pilots (SOPs/training) considering the friction on these less-than-stellar runways? The CARs don't even require operators account for the friction or any contaminant of the surface they are landing on. Desnisty-altitude, temperature, and slope (CAR 705.56); wet runways if it's a jet is all they care about. But this is Canada where we have winter, snow and contaminated runways, yet no requirement to change the opration from dry pavement.
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Don't you hate encountering runway excursions!? If you think you might encounter one, don't make eye contact!the aircraft encountered a runway excursion
Too many words, trying to sound important. Like police saying "rate of speed" - Speed is a rate!
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I would think that almost all runway excursions are preventable, most if not all I have seen has been the result of a brain fart or a poor decision made on the flight crews' part. If you want to take the true "dumb down" approach simply close the airports when it snows or any other time when the runway isn't bare and dry.
Black air has no lift - extra fuel has no weight
http://www.blackair.ca
http://www.blackair.ca
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Haha. Same with “velocity vector”
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?