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Kobe Bryant chopper crash

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It's all over the news. The sports fans are in mourning.

"The crowd is fickle. He'll be forgotten in a month".

His life means precisely no more than the other victims of the crash.
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rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:05 pm
It's all over the news. The sports fans are in mourning. Groupies all. People are so shallow. "The crowd is fickle. He'll be forgotten in a month".

His life means precisely no more than the other victims of the crash --- FWIW.
...but no less, either.
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Meatservo wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:18 pm
rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:05 pm
It's all over the news. The sports fans are in mourning. Groupies all. People are so shallow. "The crowd is fickle. He'll be forgotten in a month".

His life means precisely no more than the other victims of the crash --- FWIW.
...but no less, either.
True.

All life is precious, and always sad to see someone that young go.
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Probably not gonna sell so well anymore... or are they!?
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rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:05 pm
"The crowd is fickle. He'll be forgotten in a month".
So true. Even his sexual assault case from years ago seems to be forgotten.

But keeping in the spirit of this forum, where speculation is what drives people to return to read, weather wasn't the greatest.

"An onshore flow led to the development of low clouds and fog that settled in late last evening for much of the area. The low clouds and fog remain in place through midday Sunday," AccuWeather Meteorologist Danielle Knittle said. "Winds were very light around the time of the crash at less than 5 mph."

Being that it was reported a S76B and only 5 dead, one of which was a child of his, weight should not have been a factor.
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I played basketball in high school. My condolences.
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Tragic, and naturally leave it to members here to twist it up.

That was a really nice bird, and had EGPWS and wx radar as well. Can't imagine how it was a CFIT, but I guess it will come out soon enough.

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News is now saying...9 on board, no survivors
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Condolences...what kind of time did he have?
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rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm
Meatservo wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:18 pm
rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:05 pm
It's all over the news. The sports fans are in mourning. Groupies all. People are so shallow. "The crowd is fickle. He'll be forgotten in a month".

His life means precisely no more than the other victims of the crash --- FWIW.
...but no less, either.
True.

All life is precious, and always sad to see someone that young go.

I think I know this better than almost anyone.
I seriously doubt that. I don't doubt you think you do.
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I guess Kobe should have just let his chauffeur take the I-5 or whatever. Sure, LA traffic sucks, but it was the weekend... wouldn't have been too bad.

Sorry to hear a fellow pilot has Flown West on the job again. Condolences to the crew's family.
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co-joe wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:03 pm
Condolences...what kind of time did he have?
I don’t think he flew it himself.
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I'm not familiar with the area, but they were flying special VFR; weather was marginal VFR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0pQfgi9ZqU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kobe_Bryant
"Others reported seeing it flying into the ground at a "fairly significant rate of speed." It is unclear whether a distress call was made.[5] Data from Flightradar24 appear to show the helicopter rising abruptly before crashing."

At this point, a CFIT accident cannot be ruled out.

To those of you making comments about Kobe; please, have a little class and only discuss aviation here. You're empowered to believe whatever you want about the man, but he was an iconic athlete loved by millions of people around the world. A lot of people are rattled by this.
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VFR in IMC while trying to follow the 101 in hilly terrain: recipe for disaster...
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Gear Jerker wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:43 pm
I'm not familiar with the area, but they were flying special VFR; weather was marginal VFR
I have flown VFR in that area. No shortage of high terrain in the area with some reasonable valleys.
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Gear Jerker wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:43 pm

To those of you making comments about Kobe; please, have a little class and only discuss aviation here. You're empowered to believe whatever you want about the man, but he was an iconic athlete loved by millions of people around the world. A lot of people are rattled by this.
Why?

Why should celebrities get an outpouring of support?

Not a single article I've seen mentions anyone else's name.

What did he do for the world that deserves special consideration to not mention him here while he's mentioned in every article.

Why not mention his controversies? Rape cases and bought off witnesses... he could shoot a hoop, that's for sure.

I could care less though... dead millionaire who was tall and athletic... whatever.

I feel for the Pilots and their families... I hope the Bryant estate looks after their future too.
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Condolences to all on board.

Last ADSB data showed -4800 ft/min and 161 kts...and that was right after a sharp climb of 1400 ft/min to 2000'.

ATC recordings for the flight show Van Nuys 1100 overcast and 2 1/2 miles visibility, and Burbank as IFR.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFa ... ying_kobe/

Why pilots continue to drone around VFR when conditions are marginal at best will always escape me.....
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rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm

True.

All life is precious, and always sad to see someone that young go.

I think I know this better than almost anyone.
Nine people are dead and this is about you?
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altiplano wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:52 pm
Gear Jerker wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:43 pm

To those of you making comments about Kobe; please, have a little class and only discuss aviation here. You're empowered to believe whatever you want about the man, but he was an iconic athlete loved by millions of people around the world. A lot of people are rattled by this.
...Why not mention his controversies? Rape cases and bought off witnesses... he could shoot a hoop, that's for sure.

I could care less though... dead millionaire who was tall and athletic... whatever.

I feel for the Pilots and their families... I hope the Bryant estate looks after their future too.
Gets my vote for Most Classless Post of the Year.

"Only the pilots and THEIR families matter and THEY should get sympathy AND get paid by the guy who got killed while paying the salary of the pilot". Makes perfect sense...

There were a bunch of unsuspecting people on that flight including a couple of kids with their whole lives ahead of them. But you could care less. You sound like a douche with those comments.
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boeingboy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:55 pm
Condolences to all on board.

Why pilots continue to drone around VFR when conditions are marginal at best will always escape me.....
Totally agree.
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altiplano wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:52 pm
Gear Jerker wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:43 pm

To those of you making comments about Kobe; please, have a little class and only discuss aviation here. You're empowered to believe whatever you want about the man, but he was an iconic athlete loved by millions of people around the world. A lot of people are rattled by this.
Why?

Why should celebrities get an outpouring of support?

Not a single article I've seen mentions anyone else's name.

What did he do for the world that deserves special consideration to not mention him here while he's mentioned in every article.

Why not mention his controversies? Rape cases and bought off witnesses... he could shoot a hoop, that's for sure.

I could care less though... dead millionaire who was tall and athletic... whatever.

I feel for the Pilots and their families... I hope the Bryant estate looks after their future too.
Wow I cannot agree more with others and how classless you and your post is. The man has done considerable philanthropic and charity work for not only his community but the global one as well.
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Unfortunately this seems like a simple case of vfr into imc and loss of control leading to collision with terrrain. Going by weather at dep/dest airports and flight track, along with video from the scene it looks like they came down over Van Nuys and then attempted to follow the highway towards the destination but ran out of visibility and room to manoeuvre. Why the pilot didn't attempt to slow down and crawl along the highway, we won't ever know.
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Heliian wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:02 am
Why the pilot didn't attempt to slow down and crawl along the highway, we won't ever know.
I've always wondered the same about helicopter VFR into IMC crashes. They have the added luxury of hovering that us fixed wing buggers don't. Especially in a Sikorsky S-76, it's a pretty serious piece of kit. You're not talking Grandpa's Rotorway.
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telex wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:45 pm
rookiepilot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm

True.

All life is precious, and always sad to see someone that young go.

I think I know this better than almost anyone.
Nine people are dead and this is about you?
No it certainly isn't, and I changed my post shortly after I wrote it, upon reflection, and certainly before your post.

Not soon enough for the trolls, however.

It's not "Kobe Bryant" helicopter crash, however. It's a helicopter crash that DID kill nine people, and ALL of those lives are equally precious.

Try to get THAT part right about my post, Telex.
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